Matthew Livelsberger, a 37-year-old Green Beret from Colorado Springs, Colorado, also wrote in notes he left on his cellphone that he needed to “cleanse” his mind “of the brothers I’ve lost and relieve myself of the burden of the lives I took.” Livelsberger served in the Army since 2006 and deployed twice to Afghanistan.
“This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives,” Livelsberger wrote in one letter found by authorities and released Friday.
I mean, we live inside of bullshit town, so it’s less unbelievable each day that something like the following is actually true:
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They killed a guy or the guy decided to “die for the cause” as a cult member
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Remotely drove his dead body in a cybertruck (like the fake FSD “taxi” demonstration from musk the other month)
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Parked at decrepit old trump hotel with arrival and lobby area in desperate need of repair, but in a place that would assure press coverage for brand and to stoke bases’s victimhood complex
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Remotely detonated explosive when it was clear of most people and in a way that was loud and showy, but without extreme loss of life
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Cops at first won’t name cybertruck directly as involved vehicle as they “investigate” and then immediately cop starts talking in specific detail (uncharacteristic of cops) mentioning truck by name and how that specific brand model truck contained blast probably
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Weird press articles about musk response being a “masterclass” in crisis management PR
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trump will fundraise a lot off of the “attack” and also make a huge fraudulent insurance claim ridiculously inflating costs of ruined assets and remodeling "there was van Gogh in the lobby, you couldn’t see it, but it was there
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dead person’s writings will serve to radicalize more nutjobs ready for the slaughter as soon as their divorce finalizes.
(Keep in mind that while you were reading all that, musk is on Twitter now admitting, after being publicly caught and humiliated, that he has had fake Twitter accounts for years where he personally goes to his own posts and comments on how great he is, to himself, as the world’s richest person, on paper.)
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Is everybody just ignoring the email he sent to sam shoemate and instead going to trust the corporate owned msm reporting on this?
If he really was a right wing extremist then why would he detonate explosives outside of a trump building and cause property damage to one of the rights most symbolic moron leaders? Something doesnt add up in the mainstream narrative ,
This was also terrorism and occurred only shortly after the terrorist attack in New Orleans, and yet somehow it’s the brown Muslim getting all of the attention for being a terrorist.
Yes, the white guy who lit fireworks off in a Tesla said it wasn’t terrorism, but he also said that it was to send a message (“a wake up call”)–that’s terrorism. He was a right wing extremist terrorist but because he was white and not an Islamist, it’s just glossed over.
It doesn’t matter that he was a decorated soldier. He was a terrorist who literally wanted non-Republicans to be hunted down and forced out of the government.
Found the reason why.
The writings found on Sergeant Livelsberger’s phone suggest that he had been increasingly concerned about politics. In one note shared by the police, Sergeant Livelsberger said that people should “try peaceful means first but be prepared to fight” to get Democrats out of the federal government.
So this isn’t necessarily a problem with Trump, this guy was just another “democrats are the problem with the Real America™” Republican that happened to have mental issues driving him to be a suicide bomber.
He wasn’t even anti-Musk, he seems to have worshipped the authoritarian.
In another, he said that “masculinity is good and men must be leaders,” adding that people should rally around Mr. Trump and Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive and a top donor to the Trump campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html
Read the note… This guy must have had some TBI from his deployments. I mean he gets to the top of the forest, but then refuses to see the trees.
Yes billionaires and the 1% are a cancer on society… So the solution is to put two of them in charge? Like holy shit, you literally just fucking said they didn’t care about us, and that we’re cattle to them. Oh except for these two, the illegal immigrant that made a fortune over staying his visa and pays no taxes, and the rape ape who’s been convicted of fraud multiple times, who hires illegal immigrants, refuses to pay overtime, and also pays no taxes. Those two are the shining exceptions…
I can’t even fathom the cognitive dissonance he must have lived with daily. If this guy were in Jones Town he would have cut in line for his Kool aid even after seeing people start to drop dead.
Thank you for your service, and for showing yourself out.
His former girlfriend who was an army nurse also said that she thought he had a TBI.
I know “false flag” is a meme at this point, but this is just what it looks like when an accelerationist asshole thinks he’s clever.
Nah, he was just a fucking idiot and it’s a good day when any American thug like him wastes away.
Fuck veterans
‘Fuck veterans’ is a little harsh. Some enlist because they have no other prospects or can’t afford better education to land a job. Or they’ve been indoctrinated to think it’s ‘a mans duty to their country’. I’ve known plenty of veterans that despise the military afterward, despise current gov, and despise Trump.
As much as it sucks, enlisting is one of the few paths out of poverty in the U.S.
That is a very narrow view in how the military works. People like to pretend it’s voluntary. But if you are poor and you want to improve your life and perhaps go to college, it isn’t. Plus, unless you are American you can’t realize how hard the indoctrinate children into joining. All high schools have a recruiter there at all hours grooming kids into joining
Where did you find the note? I can only find articles that dissect it without its context.
Since some news sources are afraid to state his stance:
In one letter, he tells “fellow service members, veterans and all Americans” it’s time to “wake up” because the country’s leadership is “weak” and “only serves to enrich themselves.”
Given the location and vehicle, I say he is clearly mad at a certain side, can you guess which one? /s
Surprisingly (or maybe not), he’s a Trump supporter:
Livelsberger and his first wife divorced in 2018 in part due to political ideological differences, in particular his support for Donald Trump.
Livelsberger’s family revealed that Matthew intended to vote for Trump in the 2024 election.
EDIT: I just saw your
/s, I’m a foolThat factoid means nothing compared to the message he tried to convey.
I’m not here to support the dude’s pro-trump stance. I do, however, believe class consciousness starts when we recognize we share some of this veteran’s grievances, such as Musk’s relationship with Trump. We’re all getting screwed right now.
He said Musk should be supported…
Did not even take a megacorp CEO with him. What a failure.
Didn’t take anyone with him. Best terrorist we have seen yet, only offed himself.
Yay murder
That’s a great impression of a healthcare insurance CEO!
Are you Dora the Explorer on an acid trip?
Cause you just can’t stop licking Boots.
You applied for the united Healthcare CEO position December 5th, didn’t you?
It’s murder when it’s a human. The mega-rich aren’t human and belong in the ground where they can’t hurt anyone else.
Dehumanizing the other has succesfully been used to to make normal people commit horrible acts in the past as well.
While I agree with you in theory (because you’re completely correct with your point), these people also do horrible acts on a global scale daily. We’re at the point where either they go, or we all do.
We’re at the point where either they go, or we all do.
I’m sure this argument has been used before as well.
Again, I agree in theory, but it has only been used in bad faith before. These guys are going to utterly destroy the very planet that sustains us.
There’s a difference.
Hey buddy the boot licking conference is down the hall.
P.s. they’re never gonna pat you on the head.
But sometimes it’s a lie and sometimes it’s true.
It has and I am with you that we should not dehumanize our enemies. However, I also wonder the difference between dehumanizing your enemies because they are weaker than you and make a good target versus dehumanizing your enemies because they have exorbitant power over you. What if that’s what it takes to get people to actually stand up to the oligarchy? I don’t know.
The horrible thing about self defense is that its necessary.
Defense*
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Too bad Vance is his replacement, horrible outcomes guaranteed.
Yeah, but Vance has nothing going for him. When he becomes president, Republicans will deteriorate into pretty infighting once again and people will be sick of it
If I were prone to conspiracy thinking I’d wonder if 25th’ing Trump wasn’t the plan the whole time. We have unelected VP Musk and Co-VP Thiel sitting at the helm of our nation.
They probably just expected him to croak in his own. Safe to say, they’re never gonna ask him to change his eating habits and they’ll probably respond slowly to a heart attack if it happens behind closed doors.
Been my running theory. He’s unhealthy enough that they can hope, he probably isn’t the type to look at the nutrition info on his McDonald’s.
If that doesn’t work, he’ll be an easy 25th case soon enough.
Theil and musk have a plan.
A guy like Thiel leaves nothing to chance.
That’s very optimistic of you.
I’m envisioning Trump being attached to electrodes that turn his body to mush and then an orange-tinted puddle.
It’s a nice thought :)
Livelsberger’s letters covered a range of topics including political grievances, societal problems and both domestic and international issues, including the war in Ukraine. He said in one letter that the U.S. was “terminally ill and headed toward collapse.”
Do you notice how the side he takes on those grievances is not mentioned? I wonder what that means.
Edit: Oh wait, he was a “Trump-loving supersoldier patriot,” I know exactly what that means.
Yeah it’s been hard to parse what his actual goal was. Like, you want to wake people up. To what, exactly? I can make assumptions, but haven’t seen facts outlining this yet. It sure sounds like he was in a really bad place mentally though.
They always want us to wake up, but they never want us to be woke…
The neutral contents are valid and I feel empathy for him. Then I read your comment and now I ask myself how often they had to redact the N-Word from his text,…and now I’m angry and sad.
So much energy towards a common goal wasted for stupid fascist shit. Propaganda works my dudes…
Not his words.
Page doesn’t (fully) load. Can you link to the raw document?
My Elon-brainwashed relative alerted me to the fact that on twitter, the main rumor is that he killed himself to bring attention to the drone sightings being a secret Chinese gravitic propulsion technology.
God I hate that site.
Twitter doesn’t exist anymore. It’s Xitter. It’s full of xeets.
I prefer to deadname the site.
Honestly, the only deadnaming I can get onboard with. Although I do like referring to tweets as Xcrements now though.
Obviously an excellent reason to kill one’s self. And he made his reasoning so clear too.
I have been enlightened!
Now, there’s probably some twisted reasoning that got someone to that conclusion. I wonder how it worked.
That doesn’t even make any sense, but I’m not surprised.
Not to be a big asshole or anything, but we’ll forget about this by Monday.
No, they’ll keep overanalyzing and rehashing every detail, because it keeps Luigi Mangione out of the news.
That makes me wonder if that’s why he did it.
“If I blast myself for GOP causes writ large, I will be the new Famous Martyr!”
I mean, nobody remembers that guy that blew himself up in Nashville either. That was in the news for 2 days and everyone moved on.
Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation_of_Aaron_Bushnell
It’s unfortunate for those who self-immolate as an anti-war or anti-genocide protest, but it just doesn’t seem like it works because the public just doesn’t care enough to remember them for long, so it is not effective as a form of protest.
I remember. That shit shook me for weeks. Sometimes I still think of his burning body.
Burning yourself won’t stop Israel, sure. But it gets people involved. It got me involved.
It shouldn’t take someone lighting themselves on fire to get you to care about genocide but I guess at least you got there
I cared before too. There is a difference between passively engaging in BDS and pouring your heart and soul into a movement.
Edit: I felt the need to elaborate.
For a very long time I followed the boycott and donated what I could. Genocide is atrocious, but what else could I do? I lived in the middle of bumfuck nowhere; There weren’t exactly any movements nearby I could get involved in.
I then saw a man from bumfuck nowhere drive all the way to the Israeli Embassy and burn himself alive. I realised there was a whole lot of things I could do.
I also moved to Ireland, so I got a lot more opportunities to act on my sentiments.
We’ve had like five major events in 3 days. I can’t blame anyone for missing one or two of them.
Saturday is only the 4th day of 2025.
Why are they withholding exactly what he meant with his list of grievances? Probably because its’s right wing AF, he’s white, and had lots of guns. When are they going to play the “mental illness angle?
I mean, he’s got regrets about lives he took, so chances are he realised he’s been lied to his whole life and has done terrible things “for his country”.
But maybe I’m being too optimistic here. We really need news agencies to release the full letter instead of selectively quoting. They did the same with Luigi Mangione until Ken Klippenstein released the entire thing. Hopefully he gets his hands on this one as well.
We really need news agencies to release the full letter instead of selectively quoting.
Well I can see why morally they wouldn’t release anything at all, since doing that effectively says “if you kill a bunch of people you will get your voice heard”. But I don’t think that’s what’s stopping them.
Yeah that argument would hold up if that was consistently their behavior
Nonetheless, we allegedly have most of the info about Luigi and unsurprisingly the press is painting him as a disaffected rich kid and now a terrorist by the courts. Yet when these right wingers get infamy, like the Las Vegas shooter, the Trump attempted assassination shooter, or even this event, their leanings are buried and obfuscated by the press using terms like mental illness or other problems in their lives as rationalizations for their actions.
That could be their argument, but it’s be a bad one while making so much money by parading this around. If that were truly why they weren’t releasing it then they’d try to keep this as quite as possible, along with school shooters and all the rest.
Yeah, I don’t disagree.
But what lie does he think he was being told? If he expected a quid pro quo for his sacrifices and problems, what was he expecting in return? Good VA benefits, a social safety net, and affordable, accessible mental health care? Somehow I don’t see these benefits being an expectation when being a “patriot” and a “Trump supporter” as they are antithetical to Trump and the republican MO in general. Was he expecting an authoritarian that would shut the libs up, deport everyone, and make harmless tariffs to punish our economic enemies? Who knows, and we probably won’t unless they release everything he’d written about his opinions leading up to this event.
Mental illness? Ah yes because blowing yourself up is a totally normal thing for a totally normal person. Nope. No mental illness here at all.
At this point it’s pretty clear that if you’re a Trump and musk lover you have mental illness.
Point being that it’s “mental illness” when it comes to right wingers doing shitty, bizarre things. It’s terrorism or some kind of “typical” behavior associated with whatever dirt they can dig up on a left-leaning perp. Luigi being a prime example - he gets called a terrorist, Livelsberger probably won’t be despite his attack being plainly politically motivated.
They’re trying to portray him as some fallen hero with PTSD because of his military service (plus his whiteness and white name). Yes, it does look like he absolutely had PTSD. But that doesn’t cause people to try to suicide bomb hotels.
“It’s just a tragic case of suicide”. Yeah. So are suicide bombings. Same thing here. He was an extremist and he did this to bring attention to his extremist ideologies.
This isn’t mental illness; this is terrorism.
Just based on what was said up top, there’s a pretty good chance this guy had some pretty bad mental health problems. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
The summary shows his warning.
The following is the terrorist attack …
Tesla engineers, meanwhile, helped extract data from the Cybertruck for investigators, including Livelsberger’s path between charging stations from Colorado through New Mexico and Arizona and on to Las Vegas, according to Assistant Sheriff Dori Koren.
“We still have a large volume of data to go through,” Koren said Friday. “There’s thousands if not millions of videos and photos and documents and web history and all of those things that need to be analyzed.”
Goddamn. So it’s just constantly filming and listening 24/7 the entire time.
In addition to tracking, speed, acceleration, every sensor inside and outside, and probably hundreds of other data points. Oh and the doors automatically locked when the explosion happened but Elon was able to remotely unlock the car doors and give all that data to authorities.
Elon was able to remotely unlock the car doors and give all that data to authorities.
It probably really boosted his hero complex to take on such a task.
This is the lede being buried. Other than that its just the typical Ya’ll Qaeda domestic terrorism we’ve all come to know and expect.
We all know that a certain orange someone will write this off as just another sucker and loser gone.
whatever that shit didn’t wake me up at all
Ikr, I was late to work because of it. Smdh
