Im copying a response i left to another comment in this thread because it is relevant and people need to wake up and figure out what’s really going on instead of believing our government is still democratic when the writing has been on the wall for decades

We can agree that our entire political system has been corrupted by money? Right?

What makes people naively believe that our electoral processes have not been corrupted in the same exact way? Some delusional belief in American democratic exceptionalism?

In germany their highest court decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople/anyone who isnt a cybersecurity or IT expert.

Both parties are fascist albeit to differing degrees but both parties blatantly exhibit 13 of 14 traits of fascist regimes. The one trait they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections. But if our corporate owned leaders have allowed our society to disintegrate to fascism 93% of the way then its pretty illogical to believe they would stop short and work diligently to prevent the last 7% from reaching that point.

There is the Princeton study done within the lasy 2 decades that concluded the amount of influence one has on our political system and any legislated policy is directly proportional to the amount of wealth you have with regular working class people having a statistically near zero irrelevant amount of influence on any policy regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be. Since lewis f powell’s pro corporate supreme court decisions paved the way for citizens united and the erosion of our constitutional republic and its comprising democratic elements it has now become apparent for anyone paying attention that every aspect of our political system is for sale to the highest bidder and most likely the reality is that our presidential elections are rigged and have been since at least reagan. But even before then there was likely corruption involved since it is pretty much a historical fact that jfk won the presidency in no small part due to a backroom deal his father made with the mafia because of the connections he had made during his time establishing a bootleging empire during prohibition.

I know the 14 traits of fascism well. And they are present in both parties to varying extents. Democrats still support the war on drugs 100% which is a defacto fascist attack on minorities and lower socio economic classes who are shipped out to corporate owned for profit correctional centers so tax dollars can be siphoned for their profits while also profiting off of legally permissible slavery. Democrats are fascists with a smiley face mask waving a pride flag and blm slogans. They are inherently anti worker and pro corporate power protection. Engaging in identity politics while chastising and belittling working class solidarity and class consciousness is a fascist plan of attack through division.

Oligarchal capitalism is fascism. Fascism js essentially the combination of corporste power and government or corporatism. The democrats are fascist lite but still fascist. They took their marching orders from the same billionaires and got us to the precipice of where we are now. They have no remorse and just continue to make excuses. Read the writing on the wall ffs.

The dems only pretend to be different. They don’t have to be the same if the financial entities who fund control and dictate their decisions and actions are the dame financial interests behind the republican party.

Look ip the ratchet effect. Basically when the Republican party is in power things move as dar to the left as possible then when dems are in they pretend to tru to push progress to the left but the mechanism just ratchets back without moving anything meaningful to the left then the right comes back in and boom more progress to the left.

Whag did democracy just do this last election cycle? They ignored constituents and refused to move any policy to the left and instead courted “moderate republicans” and touted endorsments from liz cheney joe walsh and other past republican leaders as wins? The Democratic party is not a left party they are a neo liberal right wing party. They are the other wing on the same bird and that bird is shitting all over you.

We can agree that our entire political system has been corrupted by money? Right?

What makes people naively believe that our electoral processes have not been corrupted in the same exact way? Some delusional belief in American democratic exceptionalism?

In germany their highest court decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople/anyone who isnt a cybersecurity or IT expert.

Both parties are fascist albeit to differing degrees but both parties blatantly exhibit 13 of 14 traits of fascist regimes. The one trait they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections. But if our corporate owned leaders have allowed our society to disintegrate to fascism 93% of the way then its pretty illogical to believe they would stop short and work diligently to prevent the last 7% from reaching that point.

There is the Princeton study done within the lasy 2 decades that concluded the amount of influence one has on our political system and any legislated policy is directly proportional to the amount of wealth you have with regular working class people having a statistically near zero irrelevant amount of influence on any policy regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be. Since lewis f powell’s pro corporate supreme court decisions paved the way for citizens united and the erosion of our constitutional republic and its comprising democratic elements it has now become apparent for anyone paying attention that every aspect of our political system is for sale to the highest bidder and most likely the reality is that our presidential elections are rigged and have been since at least reagan. But even before then there was likely corruption involved since it is pretty much a historical fact that jfk won the presidency in no small part due to a backroom deal his father made with the mafia because of the connections he had made during his time establishing a bootleging empire during prohibition.

Bro i was born and raised to be an evangelical nut job so you don’t have to project your qualms with white Christian nationalism on me.

Those with capital who are in control of our political system are first and foremost fascists. They don’t care about christianity so much as it serves them as a tool to manipulate those dumb enough to buy into it. The whole perpetuating industrialized genocide to make a profit selling military ordinance and keep humanity under the boot of endless militarism is more dangerous than religion. Intertwining the two is a recipe for disaster but the main danger here are the war mongering billionaires not whatever imaginary friend they use to peddle bigoted hate and idiocy onto the masses

Repeat after me …. The democratic party is funded by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers that fund the republican party and they are fundamentally opposed to shifting policy to the left and adopting economic democracy to any extent in their platform to the point they would rather ensure a right wing candidate wins by sabotagingrg any popular pro workers rights candidate rather than nominate anyone left of their platform which makes american western neo liberal democracy a defacto class dictatorship!

And lets hope they do not forget that warm clothes are completely unnecessary, the freezing temperatures are a radical leftist liberal hoax!!! The truth is Antarctica is a desert and deserts are warm!!! So dress in cool summer clothing, a pair of shorts, t shirt, flip flops and underwear is all those two will need! America needs them there to truly become great again. And if that isn’t convincing enough, remember that Austrian painter you both are so very fond of had quite an avid curiosity concerning Antarctica!!

I got this message yesterday

Dickflation.

Thats some of it but if you order comments by controversial you’ll see the boot lickers and their neo lib apologists are out in full force

That is definitely the main reason i havent deleted the app to effectively evade my IP ban received for speaking facts regarding the Palestinian occupation. Because i have so many hot big tittied cam girl accounts stared on the side panel.

This post in R/technology hit r/all breifly Today around 7-8pm before the mods nipped that in the bud to appease shareholders. The comment section is a fucking shitshow with massive disappearing sections of engagement.

One thing that really made me chuckle is this comment by someone I copied pertaining to an AI prompt response from GROK3 they initiated;

I think if you ask an AI they’ll tell you.

Here’s what Grok told me a couple weeks ago:

here is Grok 3’s unexpurgated take:

(Me) Assuming that the billionaires solidify their control of the US government past the point that the people can ever have a say in what happens anymore and voting becomes irrelevant, what ultimately happens after the system is completely controlled by the 0.001%?

If billionaires were to solidify control over the U.S. government to the point where democracy effectively collapses and the public has no meaningful influence, the outcome would likely be a slow but steady transformation into an oligarchic system—think a modern feudalism with extra steps. Power would concentrate in the hands of a tiny elite, maybe a few dozen families or individuals, who’d use their wealth to dictate policy, law, and resource distribution. History gives us some clues: when unchecked elites run the show—Roman patricians, Renaissance merchant-princes, or even post-Soviet oligarchs—things tend to follow a pattern.

First, you’d see the economy morph into a machine that funnels wealth upward even faster. Tax structures, labor laws, and regulations would tilt hard toward protecting the 0.001%—no more pesky antitrust enforcement or worker protections. Corporations owned by these billionaires would dominate, merging with the state in a kind of gilded fascism. Think monopolies on steroids, where dissenters get crushed not by jackboots but by algorithm-driven blacklists and financial ostracism. The middle class would erode as wages stagnate and automation (owned by the elite) displaces jobs, leaving a stark divide: a small aristocracy and a sprawling, dependent underclass.

Society wouldn’t stay quiet forever, though. People don’t just shrug off losing their voice—they simmer, then boil. Without voting as an outlet, unrest would grow. Protests, riots, maybe even low-level insurgencies could pop up, especially as inequality becomes unbearable. The billionaires would counter with surveillance tech and private security forces—Blackwater 2.0, but with drones and AI. Public education and healthcare would likely wither, keeping the masses less capable of organizing or resisting. Propaganda would ramp up too, probably through media they own, painting their rule as inevitable or benevolent.

Long term, it’s unstable. Absolute control sounds nice if you’re at the top, but it breeds resentment and fragility. The 0.001% might fracture internally—power-hungry elites often turn on each other when there’s no external threat to unify them. Or some black-swan event (climate disaster, tech breakthrough, foreign interference) could disrupt their grip. If the system gets too rigid, it might just collapse under its own weight, like a top-heavy empire—think Rome 2.0, but with better Wi-Fi. Alternatively, they could pull off a dystopian win, keeping the masses pacified with bread, circuses, and VR headsets while they sip champagne in fortified enclaves.

No crystal ball here, but the vibe would be a mix of The Hunger Games aesthetics and Gilded Age vibes—opulence for the few, quiet desperation for the rest, and a slow burn toward either revolution or resignation. What do you think—would people fight back hard, or just adapt to the new normal?

(Me again) In the scenario you just described, what happens to the billionaires themselves after society collapses?

Once society collapses under the weight of their control, the billionaires’ fate hinges on how well they’ve insulated themselves and how the collapse plays out. They’ve got resources—money, private security, bunkers, offshore havens—so they’re not exactly scrambling for scraps right away. But they’re not invincible either; a societal breakdown cuts both ways.

If it’s a chaotic free-for-all—think riots, infrastructure failure, and armed factions—they’d likely hole up in fortified compounds or flee to places like New Zealand or private islands they’ve already bought. They’ve got the means: private jets, loyal mercenaries, and stockpiles of food and fuel. Some might even have tech-driven mini-cities ready, with solar grids and hydroponics to ride out the storm. For a while, they’d live like post-apocalyptic kings, surrounded by guards and sipping vintage wine while the world burns. But isolation has limits. Supply chains, even private ones, erode in total chaos. Their staff—pilots, security, engineers—might turn on them if loyalty fades or desperation kicks in. A pissed-off ex-employee with a gun and a grudge could unravel their little utopia fast.

If the collapse spawns organized resistance—say, a coalition of pissed-off citizens or a rogue military splinter—they’d face bigger threats. Billions don’t buy immunity from a determined mob or a drone strike. History’s littered with examples: French aristocrats thought their chateaus were safe until the guillotines rolled out. The billionaires might try to negotiate, offering resources to warlords or new power players, but trust would be thin. They could end up as bargaining chips, ransomed, or just eliminated as symbols of the old regime.

Internally, they’d probably start eating each other too. With no common enemy left to unify them, rivalries would flare. One billionaire’s private army might raid another’s compound for dwindling resources. Alliances would shift, paranoia would spike, and their little oligarchy could fracture into a survivalist soap opera. Think Game of Thrones, but with fewer dragons and more Teslas.

Longer term, if society rebuilds, they might try to reinsert themselves as saviors—funding reconstruction, playing philanthropist to rewrite their legacy. Some might pull it off, especially if they’ve hoarded critical tech or knowledge. Others could fade into obscurity, their wealth meaningless in a world that’s moved on. Worst case, they’re hunted down by a new order that sees them as the root of the mess.

So, post-collapse, they’d either cling to power as warlord-lite figures in their gilded cages, get taken out by betrayal or vengeance, or slink away to obscurity if the world resets. Depends on how ruthless they stay and how much the rest of humanity cares to chase them. What’s your take—would they outlast the chaos or get swallowed by it?

Its almost funny hos people are SOOOOOOOO close to getting to the bottom of whats going on. But there is this delulu idealism resulting from years or decades of successful social conditioning to keep believing in this obviously flawed and now non existent American exceptionalism via the integrity of our democracy which hasn’t existed in at least 4 decades if not longer.(probably since the mass assassination of leftist leaders in the late 1960’s) its like the first half of that prompt response isn’t a theoretical what if, its a literal explanation of what has already happened and what the system and all the corporatist actors are attempting to preserve at all costs.

Of course world news is filled with neo libs who think the solution to the issues is just to vote harder and that democracy in the usa wasn’t obviously compromised decades ago. Man you guys are so delulu.

Neo liberals: This is just Russian propaganda!!! We must continue giving more guns bombs tanks and military ordinance to the Ukraine to defend democracy which we don’y…. I mean definitely still do have here in the United states because of……. I mean DESPITE… Malignant Russian actors who perpetrated the DNC leaks 9 years ago and DEFINITELY NOT wall street corporate military and prison industry profiteers who own both political parties and collude to manipulate the American people and maintain their fascist neo-feudalistic state at all costs!!!

I keep hoping air force one suffers a catastrophic failure as a result of shoddy work from Boeing and crashes in flames with the majority of the cabinet and musk on board. But i bet it was made before corporations began outsourcing everything and cutting costs to increase their profits so this is unlikely. But it doesn’t hurt to hope. Some how i don’t think a musk theil yarvin cock sucker like vance would be any better and maybe even worse if he took over.

Bypasses the whole 1-2 hours of anxious waiting. Kicks in within 5-15 minutes peak hits in like 30

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