My experience with the Fediverse has only been through Mastodon, through which I struggled to find a community I really gelled with. Either it was supper overwhelming with meme posts or NSFW, or it was too chill to the point of nothing. Or, it was hyperfocused like FOSS/Linux and became uninteresting after awhile. May try again, but I think I will explore the other fedisites like Plemora or Calckey to see if I like it better.

I love the pace of a forum. I grew up primarily with GameFAQS and some lucid dreaming forum, and honestly it was very formative in teaching me how to write and use critical thinking skills, as well as how to respond to a variety of temperaments. I stopped participating in online forums awhile ago, and while I loved Reddit as a resource, I never felt inspired to participate. In the same way, there are an incredible number of forums dedicated to a certain topic, and are extremely valuable, it would be annoying to make an account for all the things I am interested in.

I like what lemmy is becoming. Glad to find system that makes interacting with people enjoyable.

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    Yeah same here, Reddit is my mindless scrolling app of choice, not Twitter, so when I tried to use Mastodon I just kinda stood there not knowing what to do

    I love being able to read and immerse myself is specific communities and whatnot, and specifically I love Reddit for the discourse, people posting in a community, replying to posts, and replaying to those replies, and so on

    So Lemmy has just become my jam, so happy that Reddit has an open source federated alternative now, even if they reverse their API debacle I’m still gonna keep using this app

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        I never understood why people were so into Twitter, from my perspective it’s like a new media version of press releases - big name people harp about whatever they harp about and I read about it elsewhere if it’s relevant to me.

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        And for me at least, Twitter is almost exclusively read-only for me. There are some people that tweet stuff that I like to keep up with, but trying to engage there is super toxic. Reddit/lemmy is way better for actually talking about stuff with people. There is toxicity but it’s easier to ignore/downvote than Twitter, somehow.

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        It is not (just) for narcissism: it can fill a niche similar to RSS. When I was using Twitter, 90% of the posts I read were from companies or projects announcing news and updates. It also had a built in comments, so you have a single, shared discussion/q&a space in the same app.

        Obviously, the biggest advantage it has over RSS (and Mastodon, so far) is critical mass. More creators have Twitter accounts than RSS feeds and for those that have both, the Twitter account is always more active.

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      Seriousl though, waking up I looked at Reddit, going to sleep I looked at Reddit. All day Reddit, and too often the same crap repeated but I was not willing to risk sorting by new, just hot, best of, or rising.

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        I use Inoreader to put in the Top Day or Top Week RSS feeds of various subreddits. (Just found out I can do the same here on Lemmy.) It helps keep my usage from getting addictive like I’m trying to squeeze blood from a rock, and it keeps me from seeing the same posts over and over again. I see all the important stuff. Once. I really enjoy it.

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          Neato! That is probably a lot healthier than checking in every 30 minutes looking to see if something changed.

          I will try it. Thank you!

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    I never really liked Twitter as a concept. It feels like it’s built on an “old man yells at cloud” concept where people just shout their thoughts and nobody gains anything from it.

    By comparison forums are there to foster discussions and communities. I thought Mastodon would be better but I spent 5 minutes and it’s exactly the same nonsense.

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      Same, same. If I follow 3 high-volume posters on mastodon or twitter, there goes my entire day.

      I prefer to follow topics / communities, not people / celebrities.

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      Yes! I remember A LOOONG time ago when Twitter was just beginning, and the articles about it were very confused about how to use it. It was described like a kind of social telepathy, where the sharing of thoughts brought about a quick intimacy with strangers. Now it is just a playground for corporations and narcissists. Well, I suppose it was always like that.

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      Thats my feel as well. The whole idea of small text blurbs that arent conversational and not grouped by topic never really worked for me. It also just feels too personality driven, where large accounts are what gets major precedence - I prefer when a small account or whatever can make a great post that gets a lot of attention.

      I can already tell the Lemmy is going to fit me a lot better than Mastodon, even tho I did enjoy that for a few months

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      Yes, I installed it, I was like “…why I’m there again?” and desinstalled it 5 minutes after. It will become like Twitter, with only “hottakes” to bring attention

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        at some point in the past I created an account on twitter but it seemed pointless to me. Then it got bigger and was always getting mentioned/quoted and I gave it another shot thinking maybe I was just doing it wrong. Nope, still sucked.

        That said, I do have a mastodon account, but I don’t like a lot of things about it. When I’m looking at my timeline, I never know if something is a top level post or a reply to someone else unless I click on it.

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          Yeah, when I was on Twitter, it just suck the joy out of me. Everyone want to be popular, and will do shitty dramas. It was always negative things, or people showing how beautiful they are. Let me tell you that for a young trans woman still in the closet, seeing girls showing how beautiful they are just to make jealous others (they explecitly said it was their intention) was very hurtful. My gf saw me going very sorrow about life and she told to to get the fuck out of this garbage. I did, and i’m very more happy

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          I feel like Twitter is just one of those sites where it’s best consumed filtered through other people posting the good bits elsewhere

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            Ironically Reddit was the best place to look at Twitter posts.

            I wonder is Lemmy will get meme style discussions about Mastodon posts?

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      Yeah, and I don’t like Twitter threads with their character limit and using multiple post to make 1 message. It looks stupid imo.

      The real discussions are really limited by this concept, and it makes reading those a chore.

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      Agreed. I think a forum-like interface is much more apt to allow interesting and rewarding discussions. Never liked Twitter’s interface either, I only think it’s good to spread announcements and the likes, which benefit exactly from that “person yells at cloud” idea :P

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    I like Mastodon, but I like Lemmy more. That said, I liked Reddit a lot more than Twitter so it makes sense I’d prefer Lemmy. I’d rather follow topics than people, and Mastodon/Twitter are about following people (yes you can subscribe to hashtags on Mastodon, but it isn’t the same).

    That said, I still have and use both.

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      I have tried so many times to use Twitter(before Musk) and it never clicked with me. I have been on Reddit for over a decade. I like the idea of the fediverse but will it be able to hit the critical mass needed to actually replace Twitter and Reddit?

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      Insert meme ‘I like you both equally … that means I like YOU much more’ here…

      IDK, I never used Twitter and never understood it: why would one ever want to share short messages? What can you express/explain with 160 characters? This is why I see no point in using Mastodon either…

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        I get news posts on Mastadon. Like a rss feed from lots of places without me going through different feeds.

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        I gel much better with forum format than microblog, mostly I don’t think I have anything worth saying on a microblog. I could see using it to follow people I’m interested in, but I can’t think of too many who fit that criteria. Also, they are all on TikTok. The only time I really used twitter was to get notifications when the ps5 was in stock somewhere.

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      I never liked the UI or design of Twitter. I grew up on image/text boards and migrated to reddit in the late 2000s as it started to take off. I like that the focus isn’t on profile building, or as you said following users, but rather on tagging along with communities that interest and inform you.

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      You are right. Mastodon is still super valuable and interesting despite its quirks and weird interface implementation.

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    I’ve been thinking that it is probably easier to move a community from a platform like Reddit to the Fediverse than it is from Twitter. I have used both Twitter and Reddit a lot, but have moved off Twitter and now use Mastodon. Mastodon works pretty well for me, but it’s taken a lot of work to get there, and there are parts of the communities (mostly related to my work) I want to connect with that just don’t exist on Mastodon.

    But the big difference between Reddit/Lemmy and Twitter/Mastodon is that on Reddit/Lemmy I am interested in communities for topics that are mostly hobbies/entertainment etc. for me, so I don’t really care about who I’m interacting with… I can’t really name more than a handful of regular users or mods on the Reddit subs I’ve been using for more than a decade. But it’s not really important for interacting there, because it’s about interacting with people who have an interest in a particular topic no matter who they are. On Twitter/Mastodon (at least how I use it), the specific people I’m interacting with are more important.

    So it seems the “lock in” of Reddit is weaker than Twitter, and I think it’ll be quicker to establish communities here. A community on Lemmy with a few hundred people contributing (posts/comments) is already pretty successful and enjoyable. It doesn’t matter that the equivalent community on Reddit has over a million people (and in fact it’s often better if it’s smaller!).

    That weaker lock in and the fact that Reddit seems to be massively undervaluing the contribution mods and third-party app devs make to the platform make me think Reddit is going to quickly regret this whole fiasco.

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      True, I also think lemmy is the main star of fediverse (peertube too) because they don’t need network effect qnd milions of users.

      Problem with reddit is it got too big l, similar like youtube, it always recommending me videos with milions of views and I don’t like them - they are professionally done and trying to sell me something.

      I just want to watch random people sharing their thoughts and hobbies.

      Right now we don’t have that part of the internet, but looks like it is comming back.

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        Indeed. Most of the subreddits I liked the most were ones with relatively small subscriber counts.

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        I think some of that is your YouTube profile, because I regularly reject recommended content on YouTube that has 250 subs or 1000 views. Mostly because it’s someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing in terms of making an engaging video so I get super bored quick. I don’t know how to tell you to change it, I do get stuff I ignore in the newpipe default list thats huge and completely uninteresting to me. But that may just be a default link, and I never go to just YouTube.com without just using it to search for a channel I like. I also don’t like or subscribe as I don’t really want another indicator of the channels I might watch. They can figure it out from what I load anyway.

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      Mastodon needs to absorb a critical mass of the users who drive content on Twitter in order to be a viable replacement. A Lemmy community only needs enough members to keep itself fairly active.

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      For sure the main appeal with Twitter was the direct communication with celebrities and other notable people, or at least some fascimile of interaction. It did a lot to close the gap between the famous and their fans/denouncers.

      Reddit had some cool AMAs, but otherwise it was just regular people dedicated to their interests and passionate about sharing it.

      What really disgusted me was how easily a few people could hijack a sub and make it their business platform to sell products.

      It is important to have spaces that are completely insulated from advertisement and all the facets of capitalism.

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    I tried Mastadon too, it didn’t gel with me. Turns out I don’t care to follow people. I follow topics.

    Is this so hard for big tech to understand?

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    They’re different kinds of experiences.

    Forum-type things like Slashdot, Reddit, Hacker news, Reddit, etc. put the focus on the topic or community.

    Micro-blog type things like Twitter, Mastodon put the focus on individuals.

    If you want to see what your favourite author is posting about, or what your favourite musician is working on, or maybe behind the scenes pictures from a sporting event, microblogging platforms are great for that. Journalists also loved them because they could follow specific other journalists or other key people in the area they cared about, and get direct info from that source.

    OTOH, if what you care about is a certain topic (F1 racing, beebop jazz, etc.) then forum-style platforms are better because the focus is the topic rather than the individuals.

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      I didn’t like Twitter for that reason. Often I’d follow someone because I saw some posts they made about something I’m interested in. Then suddenly they’re flooding my feed with stuff I don’t care about and often being really annoying while they do it.

      I rarely find someone who I like all their posts. So it’s like do I just put up with the furry porn retweets because this person is a genius who occasionally posts about really interesting hacks?

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        That’s why I rarely ever followed random people on the microblogging platforms. IMO what it’s good for is following journalists, who treat the platform professionally and mostly only talk about things related to their work, or say famous authors who do some self-promotion, but also sometimes talk about their creative process.

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    Micro blogging like Mastodon I like more for following the personalities. I don’t have a big attention seeking personality so I do not get a lot of followers on that type of social media. I am more of a reply guy so Lemmy style content aggregator with comments I am able to participate more in.

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      For sure there are cool people I liked to follow, and frankly miss. As much as I say that I really just care about topics and go deep into things and ideas, it is still other people providing that information. I ultimately care about people and their passions.

      The organization of Mastodon just sucks. Still, the people on there are worth the jank.

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      What exactly is a conteny agregator, I don’t get it… is reddit a content agregator? If so, why?

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        It’s in the name, mostly. It aggregates content. You can post links, text posts, images to specific communities and have them displayed in a feed of your communities of choice. That’s what Digg was and Reddit is, and kind of what Lemmy is doing- except on the Fediverse.

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          Mhm, I see.

          So FB is not a content agregator?

          I am really confused regarding these labels, social network, content agregator…

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            I don’t think so, but I could be wrong. I guess the “groups” functionality of Facebook could technically qualify it as such, but its primarily aimed at being a social media website. I’m not 100% on it either, because there’s a lot of overlap between platforms and their functionality.

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    Mastodon is WAY better if you follow tags. that said, I am very optimistic of Lemmy, it just needs a quality app.

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      I’m currently using Jerboa (edit: Android). Seems pretty good but I’ve only been here a couple hours. Have you tried it?

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        I’m on Jerboa now, and I think it’s got good bones, but it still needs some work. Minor stuff tho, like how setting the overall font size affects pages slightly differently.

        I also miss how RIF would open articles/media natively, instead of utilizing my default browser for everything. It’s actually nice using reader view in firefox for some stuff, but the extra loading and app-swapping is a little clunky. I’m sure it’s something I could get used to if I stick with it.

        I also need to figure out what pages/instances to follow so I can curate what shows up on my home page. I’m on day 2 here, so a grain of salt is needed for my commentary on a project that I can nitpick, but could not build on my own.

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          I hope the devs from the third party apps that Reddit is murdering are able to get similar/better jobs elsewhere. Maybe the dev teams whose platforms are now getting flooded with Reddit refugees could use the help.

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            anyone who isn’t burnt out by the circumstances would do well to get in early on this. I see it in my industry all the time; shittier companies shoot themselves in the foot, and the laborers that made them big in the first place bail to make other startups better.

            fingers crossed

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              And we should donate to all these new places. I’ll have to figure out where to send my money to support this massive migration.

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        I love how similar it is to Boost for Reddit, just wish I could stop the white flash on page transition.

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            I installed that one… I am not sure if it’s the server load to blame, but it’s not entirely stable right now. I keep getting signed out.

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            Oh dang. Glad to see Android has some good apps coming along, hopefully the iOS community can catch up. The Mastodon client ecosystem exploded back in January, hopefully we can have the same happen here.

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      I for the life of me can’t actually figure out how to get started with mastodon. Like how do i even create an account or find where to start?

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      You know what, I feel like the second part of my name right now. The solution for discovery has always been there. Like, it is the MAIN feature.

      Okay, I think I am ready for another Mastodon account. Just need to find the right instance.

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        I didn’t even know you could follow tags, that might actually change how I feel about Mastodon, let’s see!

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    Another Reddit refugee here: lemmy makes much more sense to my brain than mastodon ever did. So far, this has huge promise.

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      I felt kind of lost when looking for a Reddit alternative. Lemmy feels like the right alternative. It’s not perfect but it’s a better base than what we had with Reddit. I hope it picks up.

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        Yeah, I like Lemmy’s organisation, but it lacks people. Now when Reddit is shitting om its users, I am hopeful that Lemmy will explode in user base soon.

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          @President_Pyrus @SmugBedBug It is not necessary that everyone who uses #Lemmy has to be a Lemmy user. Thanks to the #Fediverse , everyone from Mastodon, Misskey, etc. can also participate in Lemmy content (also post in communities, just don’t create your own communities). For example, I am currently replying from Friendica. The circle of people is much, much larger, so it’s not a problem if Lemmy lacks people.

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      I rely hope it takes off like Mastodon did. Like everything worthwhile online, its the efforts of one person doing miracles to create something everyone can use, so if I want it to exist I will have to contribute to it somehow.

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    Similar. For me it’s almost a drop-in replacement for Reddit, while mastodon not really

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      Well yeah but they’re two different things.

      Lemmy is a forum like reddit.

      Mastodon is microblogging like twitter.

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        Even then i think twitter works (or used to) because of the algorithm that kept you getting more content, which mastodon doesn’t have (nor shouldn’t) but with content agregators as long as you are subscribed to stuff that interests you you only need to hit a certain number of users for content to keep flowing.

        It’s the difference between subscribing to subjects rather than to people.

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          That’s interesting. I always hated the algorithm on Twitter and just wanted to see and interact with stuff from people I followed. I can get that with Mastodon, but also see other posts from the community when I want to.

          At first I wanted a one-service social solution (think Twitter and Reddit and Insta wrapped up), but, for the reasons you listed, the fed is great because it’s not trying to be a one-service solution.

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    I’m from Mastodon and trying Lemmy to explore more of the fediverse, liking it so far too 😃. My Mastodon feed is almost all politics so I’m liking the different content on here.

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      Ug. Yes. Politics is important and inevitable but ultimately exhausting to look at. Just impotent yelling across the ether.

      An analogy that I have been using is that politics is like linguistics. It is useful to study language in a granular way from morphemes to phonetics to syntax to discourse analyses, and everything in between. The structure of a language is fascinating, it helps to discover its relationship to other languages, and it can reveal profound things about the cultures that would otherwise be lost.

      Yet, studying linguistics does not make anyone better at learning to speak, read, write, and understand other language. It does nothing for fluency. Nobody learns a language to only talk about the language, they do it to connect to other people or to experience art and media in its original form.

      Political discussion is not action, by itself it does nothing to improve the world, it only serves to bias us and disort reality.A person can only hope to be inspirational and change the minds of the prejudiced.

      … sorry for rant there. I have way too many opinion about politics for someone who does not care to see it either.

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        it only serves to bias us and disort reality.

        Ehh, i mean it definitely does do that, but political discussion is also important to guide action. We can see plenty of political action that gets nowhere and does nothing, because the people instigating it do not have a solid theory of how political change is accomplished. Political discussions are how that understanding emerges.

        That being said the internet, especially platforms like mastodon that encourage short posts, is rarely the best place for productive political discussion.

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          I admit I am being closed minded here. I just cannot see having a beneficial discussion of politica with all the hair triggered reactions and noise.

          Fuck, it used to be that the anonimity of the internet empowered people to be piss-stained jerks. Seeing all the hate and ignorance put to faces is overwhelming. People think free speech means they are entitled to others people’s attention and personal lives. I do not need to participate in that shit, and I definitely never want to look at it.

          Personally, I need to be more informed about political theory. There does appear to be an optimal way to things for effective action. I want to be useful in making the world a better place.

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    It’s quite interesting as I think the twitter migration put the focus on mastodon for a while and this place became quieter and then Reddit didn’t want to be left out so the spotlight is now here and kbin. If only Instagram could join the fun pixelfed would get a bump.

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      The number of companies owned by Metaface is so stupid. People really do give up their privacy for money, or in the case of Instagram, to quench their thirstiness.

      It sucks that the draw of Facebook is still such a primal one, connecting with people and getting that gossip. None of that is worth its continued existence.

      Real friends are in your contacts list, not on a website.

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      It is a bit numbing to let an indefinite amount of people have “access” to you. I get annoyed whenever I have anyone text me more than once at time. I am not interested in everyone who is aware of my existence, so I hate the attention. Nor am I necessarily interested in every inane thought a person my have even if I really like them.

      Still, Mastodon is really good for making friend, so I don’t think it benefits me to ignore it completely, but it is foolish to think I will ever find a balance. Like any relationship, strangers or lovers, it is paramount to set up boundaries.

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    Yep, Same here! When things went south with Twitter, I tried switching to Mastodon, but after several months, I haven’t become fond of it. Its interface is so terrible and difficult to navigate. When I heard of Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit, the first thing that came to my mind was, ‘Oh, please don’t be like Mastodon…’ and I’m glad that it is not! I like the fact that it is kinda’ similar to Reddit (interface-wise), but at the same time, it is decentralized, which means it is (hopefully) going in the right direction.

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      If your issue with Mastodon was mainly the interface, maybe you could try using a third party app like Tusky. Mastodon’s own app isn’t great, but when using Tusky it’s quite nice.

      I was never a fan of Twitter, but I use Mastodon quite a bit. Both for following news and projects as for just posting random crap. I never used Reddit much either, only read when it would come up on an online search. But Lemmy so far has been nice, if not a bit silent. I’ve got good hope for it.

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        I think Mastodon’s community isn’t really up to par with what most Twitter ditchers were expecting.

        The Reddit-Lemmy exodus however, is far more exaggerated because of the tremendous number of users on third-party apps that were being killed.

        This probably led to a lot more content generation and activity which makes it a lot more welcoming than Mastodon was.

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          I guess the problem is mainly, as someone mentioned, Twitter is for following, Reddit for interacting.

          The fact that you have to look for people to follow or you’ll have an empty timeline together with the fact that many famous people aren’t on Mastodon makes the switch more difficult for Average Joe than Reddit to Lemmy, as this kind of SNS doesn’t require specific people, just people.

          I wasn’t using Twitter for anything but customer care, so as long as I could find some interesting instances and tags I’m fine there. I didn’t switch, just joined, so nothing to miss that I had before.

          I guess in that way, Meta has been smart to give their Mastodon-based SNS first to populair influencers before releasing it to the public. Altrough I can imagine Meta’s version possibly getting blocked everywhere due to privacy concerns tho.

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          I would also try fedilab. Though I never used Twitter and Mastodon seems to me like a slightly odd rss feed of pictures and news, and a bunch of stuff in languages I don’t speak.

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            Mastodon is so confusing to use, and almost none of the people I know use it. Even a few who joined after my recommendation have stopped using it. I’m not sure what type of user Mastodon is targeting, but they have certainly failed to attract long-time Twitter users like myself. On the other hand, Lemmy has the potential to become a refuge for ex-Redditors, especially after today’s AMAs by Reddit’s CEO.

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              Agree completely. I think people just like this format better also. Some link to discuss and gather around.

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              Yea, I found Mastodon useful for news, albeit completely random non focused news. It gets updates (I assume by bots) way more than the news subreddit did in the last few years, and now I can just post one of those links into lemmy if I want to talk about it.

              I also see pictures on there a lot, but I’m not super interested in a lot of them. I have no idea what the commenting is useful for there - it’s seems like yelling into a void, though maybe that’s the fedilab problem? IDK.

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      I feel that. I thought it was just me, but it was so hard to just connect to any other instances outside of what flowed in the timeline. When I did it just took me to the website instead of integrating with the instance.

      Trying to keep up with the Federated timeline was nauseating, but it also fruitless adding every person with an interesting post.

      It sucks. I just don’t like the Twitter format.

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        That’s absolutely true. I mean we can’t even search for a word on that platform. It’s so ridiculous that only hashtags, usernames, or URLs can be looked up!

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          Yeah, it is limited in surprising ways. It is just not fun to use. I do hope it keeps evolving and overcomes these annoyances. Still, I am grateful something that matches my speed exists.

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    Personally I find Kbin more usable (while still being reddit-like) as it also has functionality letting you follow on normal microblogging content from Mastodon and other places, making it more intertwined with the whole fediverse.

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      Just checked out Kbin from this comment (and signed up) - the functionality definitely feels better. I love that I jumped straight into this same thread immediately from the Kbin homepage. Federated content is awesome.

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        And if it helps, you can see and interact with posts on Mastodon, Calckey, etc from within kbin. Each ‘magazine’ has a mod set list of words/hashtags it looks for, so it’s not everything all at once.

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      I will check that out! One of my confusions with the fediverse is that I thought having one account would allow me to access all the services, and the account acted as a kind of “base” through which I did everything. I now understand that federation basically happens at the application level, or really at the administration level, and how many services the community provides for any given account.

      What I wanted was to avoid having to create so many accounts for everything the fediverse offers, but I guess it is not possible, and honestly is no different than having separate accounts for any other online thing I participate in.

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        Yeah, that seems to be a common misconception. But it’s more that your Twitter account can interact with FB, IG, YT, etc, not that your Twitter account lets you log into all the different services.

        I ended up with probably a dozen as I was exploring the fediverse, but ended up with 3 more or less but only primarily use two of them (kbin and Calckey… I have a Pixelfed, but use it as much as I used IG, which is rarely).

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          That is okay. A little bit of compartmentalization is healthy. Each site has its own set of expectations and mode of interactions. I should be more willing to explore and find out what I like, otherwise I could miss out on an amazing community that makes my life better.

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            Mastodon allows you to verify other ActivityPub accounts with a special link-back HTML element. I wish that there was either a universal method or that more applications had something like it. Something that indicates “this is me, and you can see my other activity over here and here and here”.

            Maybe we need a dedicated ActivityPub service for just that lol. Maybe I should be the one to make it…

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              Yes! I have never been one to fracture my (veiled) identity with several accounts. This is social media afterall, part of the charm is being recognized and getting to talk to familiar people.

              The best I can do is use the same username for every website, and hope no one copies it.

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            Yes! You get it! I’m glad I didn’t stick with the popular services and tried out some of the others. You may find that after searching you’re happiest back where you started, but at least you can say you’ve made an informed decision.

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              There is definitely some truth to “the media is the message.” The structure matters, and there is no sense on settling with something that feels wrong just because it is getting traction.

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        Yeah, it’s really the opposite of that. One account let’s you access all oftthe content (or most of it, not everything is totally interoperable, and admins do block other sites sometimes), but now there’s 10,000 separate, totally independent websites.

        But it’s absolutely what basically everyone thinks at first, because most people hear about it from people that don’t really explain things very well.

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          Wow. I had no idea is was that large. I am assuming a lot of that are technical people running their personal servers, but it is still a wild number. 10,000 running websites not motivated by monetary gain or lust for power.

          Yeah, I haven’t actually sat down and read up on how the technology works, but I plan to.

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            Yeah, there’s a lot of small or single-user instances. And that count is across all of the Fediverse, so Mastodon, Misskey, Calckey, Foundkey, Pleroma, Akkoma, Friendica, PixelFed, PeerTube, FunkWhale, BookWyrm, etc., etc. But it’s a big place.

            I said elsewhere, the internet used to be expansive and sparse. Well, we’re starting to reclaim that here.

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              I have had literal dreams about how the internet used ro work. I swear I have memories about websites acting like an alternative hyperlinked operating system. I remember it being so EASY to fluidly and organically navigate to interesting websites.

              Now I am lucky if I stumble upon something worthwhile through search engines.

              Blogging killed the internet.

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      I’m not quite sure how exactly everything works but it seems like a lot of things on kbin get thrown to /m/random, does anyone know what’s up with that? A lot of communities from lemmy show up as a 404 and posts end up there.

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      To me, it seems to be the most “reddit-like” of the options out there. It pulls from across the fediverse so it has content from Mastodon, Lemmy, and whatever gets posted locally on kbin itself. While not perfect, it is being actively worked on so I’m really hoping it’ll get even better.

      I literally just posted that in r/RedditAlternatives to answer the question, “Where would you go?” lol

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        Can you move there from an instance of Mastodon/Lemmy or I misundertood you?

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            Oooh, I see! Then I’ll think a bit before joining, I’m enjoying it now as it is.

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          Are you asking if you can take everything of yours from Lemmy and move it to kbin? Or just if you can sign up and use it?

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            If I can sign in with an already created account from a Lemmy or Mastodon instance.

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              Ah no. Your login is only good for the server you signed up on. But once logged in you can talk to most of the fediverse. So the content is more or less the same. What differs is the experience between services.

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                Oh, I see! I may check it still, I won’t marry to only one platform from now on. Thank you!