• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    17·
    7 days ago

    A bunch are usually people disagreeing and making up situations to make themselves right… i.e., you posit that the sky appeared blue when you went outside today, the replies are: not if it’s night, not during cloudy days, etc. and at least one that sounds like they disagree but are reiterating what you just said.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
      5·
      7 days ago

      I’ve made this observation before, but the funniest thing about Lemmy is that !ShowerThoughts posts elicit more controversy than !UnpopularOpinion. Like, someone posts “I love pineapple on pizza” in !ShowerThoughts, and it’s downvoted to hell with people writing long essays about how pineapple on pizza is justification for bringing back shock treatment. The same thing posted to !UnpopularOpinion brings out a mob of people saying how not unpopular an opinion that is, quoting statistics about how Hawaiian Pizza is the most popular pizza in America. It’s absolutely hilarious, and one of the few areas where the Lemmy community is truly contrarian just for contrarian’s sake.

      With the exception of populations of some instances which I won’t hex by bearishly naming, and a few individually excessive dicks (or trolls, but I think most are really just assholes), the Lemmy community tends to argue in good faith, admit when they’re wrong or have had their minds changed, and are generally polite netizens in most exchanges. But !ShowerThoughts and !UnpopularOpinion just being out the contrarian in people, for some reason.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 days ago

        Unpopular opinion is just posting things that plenty of people actually agree with. Like pineapple pizza. An actual unpopular opinion would be something like agreeing with restricting abortion or something difficult that elicits very strong feelings.

        • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
          1·
          6 days ago

          But do we really believe the posters think what they’re posting is a popular opinion? Maybe they really think it’s unpopular, because of their IRL experiences, or what they see online.

          I think it’s because people know what’s unpopular, but the heavy stuff, they don’t want to be associated with. So they choose milquetoast unpopular opinions, which aren’t really unpopular as much as maybe a minority. Like, a majority of voters voted for Trump, but thinking Kamala would have been better isn’t unpopular, it was just the minority opinion among people who got their fat assess out and voted.

          Now, saying “only white, biologically born males should be allowed to vote” would be a truly unpopular opinion, but although there are absolutely more than zero people on Lemmy who believe this, no way in hell they’re going to post that.

          So people stay with “safe” unpopular opinions, like… “NYC is the ugliest city I’ve ever seen.” Sure, you’ll learn some new insults from the responses, but nobody’s going to troll through your post history and throw it in your face in every argument, or follow you around and downvote everything you post because of it. Ok, maybe some New Yorkers will do the latter, but you know what I mean.

          Consequently, because they’re just minority and not truly unpopular, all of the people who agree come out of the woodwork, incensed that this entirely reasonable opinion would be posted a being “unpopular.”

          Thank you for coming to my Ted-L talk.

          • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
            2·
            6 days ago

            I think it’s because people know what’s unpopular, but the heavy stuff, they don’t want to be associated with. So they choose milquetoast unpopular opinions, which aren’t really unpopular as much as maybe a minority.

            That’s pretty much it as far as the /comm goes.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
      8·
      7 days ago

      You’re asking the wrong person. Due either to my client, or my instance, I get, like, a 20% success rate on attaching images. Most of the time I get an error.

      On my client, there’s a little picture icon. When I click that, it lets me select a picture and, if the wind is blowing in the right direction and the stars align, the picture is embedded. Otherwise, I upload to catbox.moe and manually embed the URL. The markdown syntax for an embedded image is:

      ![](https://url.ofyour.pic/thing.jpg)
    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      7 days ago

      If you’re using voyager you can just copy and paste and it will handle it, usually, assuming your instance has image uploads enabled.

        • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          7 days ago

          I know mlem just got a new update, so I can’t comment on that BUT I can say that always come back to voyager.

          It’s as close to the Apollo Reddit client as there is (as far as I’m aware)

          • InverseNurse@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            7 days ago

            I’ve been playing around with the different options, Mlem isn’t bad. Voyager’s interface was a little all over the place for me.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 days ago

      I use Jerboa client on Android. It feels very much like the Reddit is Fun app.

      There are rich text buttons at the bottom of the new post field. One is a photo icon, click that and it takes you to your photo/file browser to select a pic.

      Here’s a pic I took of Earth’s bff, la Luna.

  • mavu@discuss.tchncs.de
    13·
    7 days ago

    This is my primary use of reddit.

    Late night shitposting, i instantly forget, and seeing lots of interesting comments in the morning.

  • crabigno@lemmy.zip
    7·
    7 days ago

    Also, what was happening in that other site many of us used to be in so interactions between the same people talking the same points were so rare?

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    4·
    6 days ago

    Oh I’m used to it, I know I have some controversial opinions.

    Hot take incoming: New 3DS XL is the best handheld Nintendo has ever made. Not only can it play every generation of Nintendo games prior, it’s the latest clamshell they made, and it even has super cool exclusives for it like the awesome GTA 3 and GTA VC (admittedly the VC one is a bit rough) ports.

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    137·
    7 days ago

    Usually its when I either offend the libs on world or the fake leftists on ml/hexbear. Sometimes if I’m particularly skilled I piss off both of them at the exact same time (usually by advocating for true liberation for the working class not under a so called “vanguard” but by and for the workers themselves)

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      1·
      6 days ago

      There will always be a vanguard, whether it’s formalized into an entity that can be structured democratically and transparently or whether it’s left unformalized and therefore subject to cliques, natural power imbalances, and a lack of accountability. The reason for this is that humans vary quite widely in political education and skill, those with more experience with organizing and those with no experience already form a natural hierarchy, and without formalizing this structure you run into danger. That doesn’t mean the Vanguard isn’t of the working class, rather, it just means that the Working Class as a whole is the real driver, and the Vanguard is the pointer, spear body and spearhead.

      The essay The Tyranny of Structurelessness does a good job of explaining the necessity of formalizing structures in order to keep them truly accountable.

      I don’t really know what you’re trying to say by saying Lemmy.ml and Hexbear are “fake Leftists,” are you just trying to say Marxists are fake Leftists?

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          1·
          6 days ago

          Why not? It’s a Socialist country if we consider Marxism to be validly Socialist. It’s certainly not Anarchist, but I don’t think Anarchism is the only validly “left” category of tendencies.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              1·
              6 days ago

              Socialism in the Marxian sense is an economy where public ownership is the principle and driving aspect of the economy, in China this is very much the case, where the vast majority of large firms and core industries are in the Public Sector. There is wealth inequality, and there are billionaires, yes, but this is an aspect that is improving over time, a process that we can track. Socialism is always a long and drawn-out process that can only truly be advanced by building up the productive forces dramatically.

              I don’t know what you mean when you say China has “Capitalism.” Capitalism and Socialism are descriptors for the broader economy as a whole, not individual portions of an economy. There is private ownership of Capital and markets, correct, but this alone does not equal Capitalism, just like a worker cooperative in the US is not an example of Socialism. If you’re interested in a Marxist perspective, I wrote a post going over how Marxists identify a system as Socialist vs Capitalist, and frequent errors made by non-Marxists (in the eyes of Marxists).

              As for Imperialism, I would like you to elaborate.

              As for fascism, that’s certainly not the case. Even if China was Capitalist, that does not inherently make it fascist, which is a specific form of Capitalism. I highly recommend you read Blackshirts and Reds if you haven’t already.

              • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                1·
                6 days ago

                By imperialism I am referring to Chinese neocolonialism in Africa. As for Fascism I am referring to the Chinese system of private owmership mixed with indirect government ownership (of which the workers own none of it). In addition the vast majority of the Chinese economy is private, that makes it mixed economy at best.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  6 days ago

                  China’s involvement in Africa isn’t neocolonial, though. Moreover, the vast majority of large firms and key industries are publicly owned, the private sector largely accounts for small businesses, which have little to no control over the economy at large. I don’t know what you are referring to as “worker ownership” if public ownership doesn’t count, that’s the core thesis of Marxism, ie reaching a fully publicly owned economy.

                  I recommend checking out the post I made and the book I linked. The very notion of a “mixed economy” is wrong to begin with, as no economy is pure, modes of productions are determined by their overall totality. Either every economy is mixed, which fails to account for the dramatic differences between feudalism, Capitalism, Socialism, etc, or we adopt a more sensible notion that economies are made up of their constituent, interlinked aspects and thus portions cannot be simply cut away and considered “socialist” or “capitalist,” they all exist in context. That would be like saying a board of directors is Socialist if they all have equal ownership, you can’t cut them away from the workers just like you can’t cut sectors out of the broader economy in which they function.

                  As for fascism, that isn’t an accurate description of fascism at all. Fascism has always served the bourgeoisie as a means to put down leftist organizing in decaying Capitalist countries. You don’t have to support China to be a Leftist, there’s lots of valid critique, but calling it “fascist” is wrong.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.socialOP
      2·
      7 days ago

      Thing is, it’s easy to offend people. It doesn’t take skill, or effort. And it’s not constructive; nobody in history has ever said, “you know, your comment about Communists all being retarded really changed my mind. I’m going to read Atlas Shrugged and become a capitalist!”

      Usually when I say stuff that pisses people off, it’s because (a) a joke fell flat, or was not obviously a joke; (b) I was reacting emotionally and said something I intended to be hurtful; © I express an unpopular opinion. As I get older, the reactions to © more often make me scrutinize my opinion, to make sure I’m not just stupidly parroting something my fascist dad taught me when I was a child.

      I used to play devil’s advocate, but it doesn’t feel good. It’s one thing if both parties go into it in good faith, and it’s clear neither is just trying to be a troll, but now? I don’t do it without establishing good faith first, and if I suspect someone’s just trolling… I just block them. Straight up. It’s easy, and I have one fewer irritants in my life.

      So, that’s me. Why do _you_do it? Are you intentionally trying to rile people up, and if so, why? Are you angry at them? Or do you say you’re offending people just by expressing sincerely held opinions, and the snowflakes are getting triggered? Is everyone but you a hypocrite?

      I mean, I believe everyone is a hypocrite, but there’s a spectrum, right? There’s a level where you are trying not to be a hypocrite, but it’s impossible to exist and not be at some level. Then there’s blatantly lying, saying one thing and doing another. A spectrum, and a lot of it boils down to good faith, and sincerity. Are you angry at faux liberals who you feel should be violently agitating for seizing the means of production, and are calling them out in their bullshit? Or just trying to make them angry so you can hurt them, just a little?

      • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        11·
        6 days ago

        I’m an Anarcho-Syndicalist, I offend ml and hexbear users sometimes just by pointing out that China is a fascist dictatorship. I offend world users by telling the truth some aren’t ready to hear. These truths include the simple facts that you cannot reform capitalism out of existence, liberal democracy is democracy for the capitalists, a bloodless revolution is not possible, and compromise with fascism only brings fascism. Sometimes I offend people by being unapologetically Queer, sometimes by being unapologetically Anarchist, but I have learned that apologizing for my beliefs is utterly nonsensical.

  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
    51·
    7 days ago

    I sometimes write something that might be controversial, so unless I have a lot of free time I don’t open Lemmy at all, lol.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    1·
    6 days ago

    I usually know if something I say will get a bunch of replies, plus I normally use Lemmy most actively in the morning and at night so it happens regularly.