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Didn’t turn out great, but is definitely worth watching.
Didn’t turn out great, but is definitely worth watching.
Absolute immunity is exactly how genocide and civil wars are facilitated.
I doubt it will get as far Rwanda better of societal complexity, but if someone awful is elected and they decide to execute trans, or arab, or left handed people, or decides to murder anyone themselves, there’s no reason why they should consider the legal allowance of or consequences of their actions before taking action and no way outside of specific new amendments to scrutinize, prosecute or guard against that action in the future.
The states now have to rely on the personal judgments and courage of everyone under the commander in chief, which is everyone, to refuse to carry out atrocities.
It’s definitely the latter, corruption.
There’s no way the conservative justices could have drawn many of their conclusions with any consistent interpretation of the constitution and the enumerated rights.
The court conservatives are clearly advancing corporate and political partisan interests and interpreting identical constitutional amendments and passages different ways on different decisions.
Thomas has explicitly said that all he wants to do is hurt liberals, and accepted gifts from wealthy donors with connections to cases he oversees.
I’m sure he’s not the only one.
Without legal consequence, yes.
That action could not be legally scrutinized or judged and Biden, as president, would be immune from prosecution.
Not even Putin is above the law according to any interpretation of the Russian constitution.
There can be a fight, but it can be stopped at any point by the executive branch for any reason without restriction or consequence.
Plus, now there is a legal precedent for presidential immunity, so even if the best situation occurs and executive balance is restored, the next team of bandits can point to 2024 and say well look, the highest court in the land said their ruling supersedes the Constitution.
Fixing this will require some sort of comprehensive rewrite of either the Constitution to make its powers inviolate or better yet, to make the limitations on the branches inviolate.
Maybe increase the amendments by tenfold to elucidate exactly what is allowed and not allowed, because right now “reasonable judgment” is often invoked as a limitation on important legal rulings, but if you have a conservative majority refusing to honestly engage with “reasonable judgment” and willing to pwrjure themselvesto irritate harmful and unreasonable judgment, as the conservatives on the court are and have been willing to do for decades, then they can do things like violate or invalidate the Constitution.
The problem with all of these solutions is that the limitations on executive power are already very clear, and the supreme Court is objectively violating them.
I don’t see a clear resolution at this point, although I’m so shocked by the end of the US government that I’m still working through the consequences and considering hopeful solutions.
Right now, the most hopeful solution I see is like when dumps asked pence to violate the Constitution and declare him president, pence refused.
So if another atrocity is now ordered, right now the only hope is that the person being ordered to do it will risk being executed for treason and not follow that order.
Relying on many someones like pence to all do the right thing is not exactly comforting.
Great point.
We’ve passed the point that everything “could be on the table”, everything is on the table as of that ruling.
Biden is right now absolutely unfettered by the Constitution, amendments, federal and state laws, according to the supreme Court.
Biden immediately made it clear that no American was above the law, but right now he is above the law and choosing not to take advantage of the now unrestricted power of his office.
Not likely to be a tradition in future presidents.
The US President now has legal immunity from executing those laws faithfully.
A large portion of tourism income, including airfare, goes directly to the government, and North Korea can buy old nuclear warheads for several hundred thousand dollars, which adds up pretty quick with a few hundred tourists.
Bear that in mind if you’re thinking of visiting.
Disclaimer: someone calm me and op down.
I couldn’t believe that every post wasn’t about this ruling all day
No, you shouldn’t calm down, this decision is absolutely cataclysmic for the US should a dangerous person be elected or the ruling not overturned.
I’ve been saying the states are okay despite all SCOTUS’ stripping of civil rights and everything else wrong with that country because as long as there were checks and balances, voting had relevance.
With this ruling,I can’t see that it will continue to.
A president can order their political opponents murdered.
They can order that all civil rights be suspended indefinitely.
They can order a suspension or abolition of term limits.
They can abolish voting altogether in a hundred different ways and nothing can be legally done to halt that president from continuing to abolish voting until it sticks.
If anyone does manage to legally stop the president, the president can kill them or cut off their fingers and remove their voice box.
Literally anything is now legal, fair game.
Biden has spoken out against that kind of power and he has it right now, so VOTE for BIDEN to buy yourselves some time.
Whoever comes after this term or the next likely won’t have the same scruples.
This is far and away the most dangerous and harmful decision SCOTUS has ever made, which is saying a LOT.
It is the antithesis of the line in the Constitution explicitly stating that no elected official (like the president) has legal immunity.
The decision to grant an entire branch of the government absolute(it is absolute, anything can become “official”) legal immunity could very rapidly destroy the country as it is and turn it into a true authoritarian state within a week.
It takes some time to write, print and sign the executive orders or I’d say a day.
I have to read up on it more because I haven’t read or heard enough yet to convince me that this decision is not utterly catastrophic.
I’m shocked the dollar hasn’t collapsed, any further international faith in US stability is misplaced.
Antiquated.
Jackson added, for sure.
Kagan no way.
Kagan has sided with conservatives way too many times with the “look, their conclusion is poorly reasoned and unconstitutional, but you can technically get to the conclusion constitutionally from a liberal perspective if…” and then she sides with the conservatives.
Poking around in legal details can be fun, but she can be a professor while we get someone taking action on the court instead of siding with employer-imposed religious mandates over employee bodily autonomy (hobby lobby), supporting the “Muslim ban”(trump via Hawaii), and crippling contract law so that class action lawsuits can’t be brought against corporations over faulty or illegal contracts. (American Express versus Italian colors).
Kagan is not helping people, get someone on there who wants to help people.
What do you like about genocide?
Specifically
Time to legally immediately replace every Justice except for Sotomayor and Jackson.
Thanks, I seen this post a few times and then reality bites just hit me after my brain had ruminated a bit I guess.
Yea, and now there’s the swingback glorification of selling out.
Financial success in and of itself shouldn’t be shameful or exalted, I wonder if there’s a movie showcasing that exaltation of personal commercial success the way reality bites showcased the shame.
I can’t think of one that nailed it the same way.
Reality bites(1994) portrayed the paradox of the newfound “horror” of selling out in the 90s by achieving goals you set our for yourself.
That nailed a specific part of american culture for most working people in the country.
Waiting is also weirdly accurate because on the production side you need actors to focus on portraying a particular personality trait to define the entire character, but that applies in real life to restaurant dynamics, one salient personality trait sort of defines who each person is, like it makes it easier to work in a group if you know that that guy is the stoner or that guy is the cool dude or that girl is the bossy one.
Kids(1995) got suburban entropy pretty solidly. Gummo is kind of in that category too, although I can’t confirm because I never lived in the boonies.
Tuesday Fiasco
Haha, no.
I’m sorry you’re having such difficulty with reality, but civil rights and green technology is the future.
Must be difficult living in a progressive world leaving you behind.
I see and hear a more progressive population inundated with more conservative news.
Totally agree about voting.
I’m not, but that sounds like you. Why?
Two salient points:
This has not already happened in Russia.
In Russia, Vladimir Putin does not legally have absolute immunity.
China would have been a better example, since the Communist party is above the law and xi did abolish term limits for himself.
In the US, a president could not pardon themselves for state crimes, and the president murdering someone would have been a prosecutable state crime until this decision.
Not so anymore.