• phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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    This is the first time I’ve heard of creamer and everyone seems to be shitting on it.
    I guess I haven’t missed much.

    Are there good ones? And do many people actually use this instead of milk?
    Or is this just another one of those american culture things that us foreigners will never understand?

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    Coffee creamer is bizarre. It makes everything you add it to taste sweet, oily and industrial yet it’s so popular in some cultures that it’s considered a no-brainer.

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      For anyone wondering about transatlantic definitions: US Heavy Cream is 38%, UK Double Cream 48% US “Half and half” is 12%, UK Single Cream 18%

      They can basically be used interchangeably.

      Milk is also basically the same, UK Semi-skimmed is 1.7%, so (obviously) closer to 2%.

      Good coffee is good black

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      I discovered creamer recently, I honestly don’t get it. It tastes awful and why not use actual cream or milk in coffee than this thing ?

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        Well, there are over 5 billion lactose intolerant people out there. Coffee creamers do typically include a very small amount of milk derivative, but it’s not enough to make a difference if you don’t have a dairy allergy.

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                It tends to be geographic, so if you live in a region that’s able to deal with lactose, you’d have the impression lactose intolerance isn’t super common. But entire regions are lactose intolerant, like Southeast Asia (including China) and about half of India.

                Basically anytime you see dairy as rare or non-existent in a region’s traditional cuisine, that’s why.

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        I think a good approach is to only use it as a light sweetener, I only pour about 5g-10g of creamer into my lattes. Coffee mate’s Hazelnut creamer is the only flavour I tolerate, the rest taste too synthetic.

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          I use plain creamer and it sweetens it up a bit but the bigger thing to me is it thickens it up ever so slightly giving it a much better mouth feel.

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      I’ve noticed different coffees blend better with different creamer flavors. And if you only add a little bit it takes the edge off the bitterness

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      The 3 options for regular coffee, commonly found in the US: heavy cream, half&half (50% milk & 50%heavy cream) , non-dairy creamer

      I think most people use “half and half” in their coffee. Nondairy “creamer” is basically corn syrup solids and coloring. Its nasty.

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        It’s been said but heavy cream is a great alternaive, I use about one tablespoon per mug. Sometimes I add a tiny bit of vanilla extract and a small amount of powdered sugar to the cream and whip it with an electric frother.

        A dairy free alternative is oat milk, the thicker store bought ones are great, but I usually make my own. Just blend a 1/4 to 1/2 cup of oats to 2 cups of water in a blender for 30 seconds and strain through coffee filters or some salvaged fabric from an old shirt. It can be heated and frothed, then poured over the top of your coffee for a nice foam.

        To be honest though, usually if I’m not feeling like straight black coffee I just add 1/2 tbs of brown sugar and that’s more than enough for me.

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      I use like less than a tbsp of coffee creamer for coffee.

      The flavour is so artificial that any more will make me feel sick. It just tastes like soap.

      Many coffee creamers also taste terrible, I’m very surprised at the popularity of them overall.

      I get a specific kind that I can bear and I put a very small amount and it works for me. I don’t like milk. Black coffee is okay but I do like it with creamer more.

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    Well I proudly proclaim myself to be a part of #CreamerNation. And on a completely unrelated offtopic note I love International Harvest.

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    Back when I regularly drank coffee, I’d use a bit of this kind of stuff. A splash.

    Still way, waaaaay too sweet.

    Switched to a half gallon of wholefat milk in the fridge, used a splash of that instead.

    Much better.

    Most Americans I’ve known seem to think they like coffee, when what they actually like is a milkshake with notes, hints, suggestions of coffee.

    One former roommate of mine thought it was completely normal for ‘a cup’ of coffee to be 1/3 coffee and 2/3 this kind of pictured coffee.

    I remember actually vomiting one time I mistook her cup of coffee for mine.

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      Not everyone can get coffee beans within a few days of roasting. You need to cut the butter taste that builds up with something to get the same effect.

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        … Do… you mean cut the ‘bitter’ taste?

        Because… somewhat ironically, if you’ve indeed made that spelling error, I’ve also found that a tiny bit of butter (actual butter, not margarine), a teaspoon, stirred until totally melted into the coffee, can give a much more rich and varied taste to what would otherwise be too bitter and… ‘sharp’, I guess.

        Probably wouldn’t work so well with instant coffee… but I’ve always just gone with a darker roast of some kind, either grounds or beans that I grind with a cheap grinder, and then just use an old fashioned french press.

        I guess I just prefer significantly more bitter and less sweet coffee than about 1/3rd of the people who’ve read this…

        Oh well, works for me.

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      I spent 6 months in Italy. I spent another 6 months in Jamaica. I spent another 6 months in 5 different European countries. I’ve had really fuckin bad coffee everywhere.

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        Everyone’s entitled to as much caffeine as their bodies can handle, but it is pretty odd to ‘love coffee’ but actually love ‘coffee-flavoured hot milkshake’. Like saying ‘I love fruit’ but really meaning ‘I love apple jacks pop tarts’, it’s not wrong, just a bit odd.

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          Yeah that’s still gatekeeping though. Coffee is coffee regardless of what you put in it. Even if it’s gross according to my own individual taste, it’s still coffee. Saying anything else is just “better-than-you” gatekeeping.

          Edit: it’s also nothing like your example at all, because coffee with creamer is still literally made with real coffee, while an apple jacks pop tart is almost definitely not made with real apples.

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            Coffee is only coffee if the coffee part of the drink is > 50% of the volume. In North America, lots of people drink a mixture that would actually have you curious about that ratio.

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              This is pretty much the same in Europe and Asia. Most coffee drinks are espresso in a lot of milk. Americans are ironically one of the only places where coffee is commonly drunk straight up.

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            Sure, it’s gatekeeping coffee - the reason we build walls with gates is to keep the barbarians out! I wasn’t trying to ‘gatekeep caffeine’ in the slightest, those concotions are defintely cafffinated hot drinks. And of course, by some standard they’re ‘coffee’ and so is tiramsu.

            Apple jacks pop tarts are made from apples (apple powder, but apples nothertheless), and while it might be a small fraction of the total, the point where it stops being fruit and becomes a snack is an arbitary line. I assume you consider a drink made with instant coffee powder still coffee?

            Obviously, it’s a silly semantic debate, and someone could equally judge me for wanting my coffee beans roasted and ground “why not eat the berries fresh if you say you love coffee‽”.

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              Obviously, it’s a silly semantic debate, and someone could equally judge me for wanting my coffee beans roasted and ground “why not eat the berries fresh if you say you love coffee‽”.

              My point is that it would be silly to judge someone for this, just like it’s silly to judge someone for putting creamer in coffee.

              Edit: also, what about drinks like mochas, cappuccinos, macchiatos, etc. which also have other ingredients mixed in? Generally it’s still fine to call those forms of coffee, no?

              Random side note: I’ve had chocolate-dipped espresso beans before and they’re actually a pretty good snack. You just can’t eat too many of them because of the caffeine content.

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                Yes, I guess I take the different perspective with that. I’m fine sticking with my own arbitary rule for what is coffee, and judging people (in a very mild and irrelevant way) for not liking “real” coffee. But I’m also totally fine with someone judging me for doing it wrong. Or putting cream in my carbonara or whatever. I don’t think people judging each other and having arbitary standards is a bad thing, and I’m aldoy happy for people to disagree with that belief.

                A cappachino is coffee and frothed milk, a mocha is coffee and chocolate and milk, etc. If you make something by mixing A + B + C then the result can’t be C. Personally I like just coffee on its own, but I’m happy to make others sweet and milky coffee drinks if they desire them. They smell nice and look pretty!

                Defintely agree about the beans.

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                  Reaching a middle ground on an Internet discussion? No, it can’t be. There must be something wrong here. I need to keep arguing about minor things like daily routines. Why else would I be here?

                  /s if it wasn’t obvious. This thread makes me happy, have a good day :)