“We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn’t just about one individual—it’s about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness,” read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.

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    What’s crazy is that Trump and vance could read the room and drastically change the US forever by using the hate that people have for insurance companies to dismantle their influence.

    But instead these crooks are going to enrich themselves and leave office (maybe) dismantling and hurting the people that voted them into office. As bad as 2016-2020 was, I think it’ll pale in comparison to how bad things will get. If you aren’t putting money away towards your 401k, do it now. Because rebuilding healthcare, housing, education, and other crucial regulatory functions of the government is going to take a long time. Especially if we lose any liberal USSC judges. It will be harrowing for the poor and middle class. More so if you are a person of color, lgbtq, or any ethnic minority.

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    The consistent creation of fundraising pages of Mangione follows the macabre reaction much of the public has had to the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

    More like the perfectly reasonable reaction.

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      They either can’t see what’s going on, or they can’t admit it in case it encourages solidarity among the poors.

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    During the Great Depression, people were so angry at banks that they rooted for bank robbers. Things are so bad now that we’re just straight up rooting for cold-blooded executions. Censoring people’s online activities won’t make this anger go away. The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don’t want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

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      Like that’s ever gonna happen. There are and will always be boot lickers that’ll do anything for money.

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      Reddit just banned me for saying I support Luigi in his monster slaying quest and hope there’s more heroes out there.

      Say, what’s the Lemmy policy on being real? I don’t really care. I’ll say it in person as well as any online platform, and if I’m banned from them all then I’ll just read books and shit.

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        It depends on the instance. I just left Lemmy.World because of their euro- centric pro-censorship stance of educating people on the existence and explanation of jury nullification.

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          That’s what I’m on since I’m not really too well read on Lemmy yet and it was the most popular. Any suggestions for a good instance that can be readily joined where we have some semblance of freedom of speech? I mean, I’m far from a terribly hateful person but I’m not going to pretend I’m upset when a bad person dies, and I also like discussing internet piracy and such. I just wish for Reddit circa 2008. Heh.

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            IMO – you can’t go wrong picking something obscure, or something you just llthink sounds cool, or anything for whatever reason. If it doesn’t work out, switching isn’t a big deal, unless you plan on cultivating a following. I’m ok with nuking my profiles and starting fresh. I chose my instance because I thought the name sounded cool. I haven’t been disappointed. I still regularly hear from a bunch of instances .world, .ml, dbzero, or whatever.

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            I‘m a piracy fan and I‘m on dbzer0 instance as it‘s an offshoot of r/piracy. I barely post and lurk more, so I don‘t really know how they‘d moderate on the Luigi situation. The owner seems to be an anarchist and historically anarchist action wasn‘t all peaceful, most anarchists seem to support a “diversity of tactics” one of which is violence. Which makes sense to me, it’s like self defense cause what Americans are dealing with here is structural violence and what looks like zero hope for change.

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      The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don’t want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

      I don’t expect radical changes. I expect them to make the minimal concessions they believe to be enough to make people just happy enough to not depose more CEOs

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        I actually don’t expect CEOs and billionaires to make any concessions. Honestly, this is how I imagine the next few years going:

        Right now, billionaires are waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans want them dead. CEOs will start beefing up security while politicians and pundits try to spin this, and they’ll all hope this was a one-off. It won’t be. Sure, there probably won’t be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a five day manhunt, but there will surely be a guy with an AR-15 who takes out billionaire or CEO before getting gunned down himself by cops or private security.

        Billionaires will start lobbying for protections from Congress, probably through special treatment from federal law enforcement and a push for gun control. This will only further enrage the public, who have faced mass shootings in schools and churches without any response. On top of that, the Trump administration is gearing up for an era of naked corruption, which is going to make the billionaire class even less popular

        All in all, I think we’re heading towards a period of political instability and violence. Maybe it will end with public rage being channeled into a series of reforms like FDR managed with the New Deal. Maybe we’ll devolve even further into oligarchy and authoritarianism as American society collapses. Either way, I think there will be radical change.

        Anyway, that’s my theory. Maybe I’m wrong, and this will be a blip, but I don’t think so. This feels like a very different, very significant moment.

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          Fair, even if I think it’s a little naive.

          Say, a man is going to go and murder an entire city and to stop him you must kill him. You’re saying you wouldn’t support that and would be happy for a whole city to die instead?

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            So your saying the CEO of United healthcare murdered people? Then he should of been charged. People should not be Judge Dredd.

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              I am saying the system he helped caused people to die that did not need to die. I am saying it causes untold suffering to their families and friends.

              It seems to me that systemic suffering is fine as long as shareholder value is increased.

              Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

              • JFK

              I live my life similar to Luigi, although to a lesser extent. In that I don’t let things like the law dictate what I will and will not do, more that I will weigh up the pros and cons of a particular action. When a person doesn’t believe the world is being run morally we will go off our own morals of what we believe is right and I truly believe the world would be a better place if certain people were not in it anymore. If you can kill 1 person and it improves the lives of say 100 people , then have at it and kill that sob.

              If you were in a room with Hitler before he came to power and you some how knew what he would go on to do, are you saying you wouldn’t have killed him?

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                Would i Kill Hitler? no, because i am not one to take someone’s life. I don’t think anyone has that right. and if it’s committed, they will be tried in court and thrown away in jail.

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                  Appreciate your honesty, even if I think it’s a little misguided.

                  I would have put a bullet in Hitler’s head without hesitation if I knew how many people he would go on to kill, I actually think it would be my responsibility to make the world a better place.

                  If I was tried for that crime and sentenced to life in prison, then I would accept that as the cost of doing the right thing.

                  Now I imagine Luigi wrestled with the same things and is happy to face charges for doing what he thought was right and I find that admirable, much more admirable than letting someone like Hitler cause millions of deaths because I didn’t want to get my hands dirty.

                  I want you to know I am not judging you and I support your belief in your morals and where you draw the line, I just wanted to open a discussion as someone who is somewhere on the ASPD spectrum, it always interests me what lines people have and their reasons for them.

                  Have a nice day. 😊

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    Huh? Isn’t he entitled to the best defence he can get?

    Innocent until proven guilty, remember.

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      I was going to make a joke about how crowd funding legal fees is only OK for ex presidents and right wings nutjobs, but I thought somebody might not understand the sarcasm and agree.

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    This guy doesn’t need a GoFundMe.

    He could start an Only Fans where he talked about his ideas with his shirt off and he’d be set for life, or at least until Nintendo sued him off the Internet.