This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.
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Okay so they’re not getting vaccinated and now they’re guzzling unpasteurised milk whilst cattle all over the US are dying of this latest bird flu?
I’m starting to think this right-wing shift might sort itself out
(Before anyone says, I know this is very bad for avoiding another pandemic which won’t care about how you vote)
That’s what people said during Covid. The strongest dumbs still survived.
No, we made the mistake of doing everything thing we could to make them get vaccinated.
Next time we know better.
New ad campaign:
“You survived COVID, even though the liberals tried to get you to vaccinate. You haven’t vaccinated to this day because you have an immune system. You’re conservative and strong. So when the liberals try again with bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever animal disease they come up with next, just tell them, ‘No thank you.’” Make sure the video playing along with the words shows strong manly men - white, of course - with rugged good looks, wearing outdoorsy clothes, doing manly stuff. Guaranteed to convince a bunch of insecure conservative douchebags not to vaccinate. Again.
Waaay too many words. Keep it simple.
Drink America Milk Agian!
Keep the typo. Shows you didn’t do no book learnin’
Drink American Milk Now - Dairy US Milk Best
The D.A.M.N. - D.U.M.B. movement.
Brilliant
let those children be unvaccinated then you won’t have to worry about them in the future either
Allow me to make a modest proposal…
That’s because the death rate for these sorts of problems is very low and at best is a very weak evolutionary pressure which won’t yield results for many generations. Additionally, the heritability of medical stupidity is very questionable.
Nature vs nurture, as it were.
And millions of “smarts” were so “smart” that they decided they didn’t need to vote again after 2020, and as a result, the “dumbs” are in power.
So who’s really dumb, here?
You don’t really need the bird flu in that mix, even. Pasteurization was a huge public health win.
What next, fridges are woke nanny state inventions and real red-blooded Americans store all their food in room temperature, especially their raw milk and meat?
Nah, fridges are convenient. That’s what makes the beer taste good!
There is a definite interest in learning older preservation techniques. I’m not sure how it lines up with political beliefs, though. For any that do, the big trick was salt - lots of salt. If they are above a certain age, it’s likely to do some damage based on the rest of our modern lifestyle.
There are some more ways, usually involving fermentation. Us arctic types know some methods. But I get the impression rakfisk, lutefisk, hákarl, surströmming and kiviak would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.
[…]would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.
That’s the most eloquent thing I’ve read this week.
very specific kinds of desperate people
Me who honestly enjoyed surströmming…
Nothing to be ashamed about! There’s lots of stuff around the world that some people love but the majority shy away from. All the rest of us can ask is that you enjoy it responsibly and don’t bother other people with the smell. :)
It is an acquired taste for some
You’re a very specific kind of people. Only you can say whether you’re desperate
Good tasting beer makes you gay, fridges are woke devil’s spawn!
Well I am progressive as fuck politically and somewhat crunchy lifestyle -wise. Garden, ferment things, have made bread exclusively from sourdough for about 15 years now, really enjoy fermented foods like kimchi and pickles and sauerkraut.
The other fermenter in our family is the literal racist uncle, he makes incredible homemade foods, raised me a turkey for Thanksgiving one year, even.
Both of us came to it from a culinary background, not a political one, a way to get good food. I don’t think it maps well, but there is certainly a subset of crunchy lifestyle people who started out progressive and were coopted by the right wing.
Stoves are convenient too, and they went after them for a month.
Food preservation lines up very well with conservative and libertarian plans. I even know if your number of Democrats that enjoy preserving food. Dehydrating, canning, pickling or all cheap and easy. The more extremes in conservative and libertarian also seemed to like freeze drying. I have to admit I kind of like freeze drying myself but the machine is so freaking expensive and then it consumes so much power, you can literally buy commercially freeze dried food cheaper than you can make it yourself and that does not get better at any reasonable home scale.
To be fair since Pasteur we have made enormous progress in refrigeration and supply lines, so if the cow is healthy, and the raw milk is fresh, you should be fine. The main issue is that you should treat the milk in your fridge like something that spoils quickly (like fish), rather than something that can stay in the fridge safely for a week or two. Of course if the cow is sick none of this applies, so it has to come from a trusted source.
TLDR; raw milk can be okay if you are taking far more precautions than you normally would with milk.
Not using dented / bulging cans is a conspiracy.
Call it evolution in action.
Darwinism goes hard when it benefits the left
EDIT: Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing
We need to tell them about the health benefits of Jonestown Koolaid.
political beliefs aren’t genetic. Nazis tries to exterminate every communist and it didn’t work.
It’s obvious why they’re suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It’s the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.
Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.
Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said “Don’t drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases.” Republicans declare “You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands.”
I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of “Don’t tell me what to do.”
Humans are famously garbage at comprehending statistics, and most Darwin Award winning conservative behaviors are born of it.
Take any mundane thing that was part of a status quo of a previous era in recent memory. Anything at all. Research comes out suggesting that thing has a small, but non-negligible risk to be quite harmful. So we collectively shift to a new behavior that tries to eliminate the risk. A shift that, in most sane and civil peoples’ opinions, is so unobtrusively small that any theoretical benefit we’re trading away is probably well worth the risk elimination.
But oh, a certain group of people will bitch and moan and scream and piss all over themselves in rage over how you dared to take away something so integral to their culture and lifestyle! The risk aversion is never worth the vain fringe benefit of whatever perceived quality was lost because the risk is completely invisible until it actually hits them personally.
Milk used to taste so great! God’s gift to the world! Then we all started boiling it and now it tastes worse! And for what? Because a couple of weak-bodied cosmic lottery losers were getting a few tummy aches? The vast majority of us are all suffering over nothing! Life was so much better when we weren’t all scared of things that won’t happen! We did it for millennia and we turned out just fine!
Then you point out all the people actually getting hospitalized from pathogens in raw milk, the very thing we were trying to avoid in the first place, and if they even believe you at all they simply consider it an acceptable price to pay. Better to live in a rich and interesting society where you’re free to risk harming yourself and others than a milquetoast one where imperceptible threats have been preemptively eliminated at great cost.
And then they turn around and work to ban books that mention trans people or ban porn websites to save the children or some other dumb shit.
Yeah back in the 2000s my permaculture/crunchy granola/woo woo/socially conservative/Catholic friend liked raw milk because of the health benefits, live cultures, etc., and believed that it was worth the risk that someone, somewhere, might get sick. But he’d be ok though because he knew and trusted His Farm.
I didn’t agree with him but I was tempted.
Imo if something can’t be regulated to within acceptable risk, it’s probably too dangerous.
That’s why Alex Honnold can go free solo a cliff because he’s only risking himself and his family’s future without him, but selling raw milk puts a lot more people at risk.
I would. My Dad grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk out of the cow that morning - if I see upon a farm, I’d certainly try it
Just like on a veggie farm (IPM, no pesticides) I tried carrots out of the ground, flowers off the stem, berries off the bush. It’s a really neat experience.
However I’d never make a habit out of it, nor try it when it’s not absolute fresh and I knew what was on it. The odds are ok if you do it once under known conditions, but like any other gambling, the house always wins
I said it a million times, if Obama simply came out in favor of lowering the minimum wage then we’d all have six figure salaries.
I mean, we could at least try releasing that PSA.
Maybe take baby steps first, like “you should never cross a street with heavy traffic”, “looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous” and “eating poop is nasty”
You forgot the one about gas stoves in homes.
To be fair, there are so many examples of this lately, it’s impossible to keep track of them all.
Gullible fucks. How many of them would die if they were told that they can boost their immunity by sticking their house keys in a power outlet.
But the lamestream media says not to do it! That means they’re hiding the secret to cleansing out the 5g nanoRNA or some shit.
“Would an apartment key work, or do you have to own a house?”
bleach
It is a non-zero number, you can be sure of that.
Electrons are the purest substance known to humanity! How are you going to tell me allowing 15 amps of the purest substance known to flow through my body is a bad thing!?
Stupid liberals don’t even understand electronomy!
:P
It’s because the gubmint told them they can’t have it and, like petulant children, they just wanna do what they’ve been told they shouldn’t.
This is exactly it for the vast majority of them. And there’s a minority that have been duped into believing there are legitimate benefits.
You know what? We should probably deny vaccinations, unions, and “love thy neighbor”… The world would be a better place
Wait till they outlaw/regulate eating unpasteurized cheese in the US…
Oh wait.
It’s not illegal to eat it. It’s illegal to sell it.
Let them drink milk.
Problem is, it won’t just affect them. Tuberculosis can spread just fine.
TB isn’t too bad it’s that Micah you’ve got to watch out for.
Fuck Micah! That boy never did Dutch any good.
By the gallon.
Maybe we can speed the process up by convincing them to eat raw chicken, too.
The best way to consume raw chicken is in cocktail form, specifically the pollo colada. It’s like a piña colada, except you substitute raw chicken for the pineapple.
libs want to ban raw chicken smoothies
Mama’s Coconut Chicken
Chicken sashimi is a delicacy in Japan, and so easy to prep at home! Just leave your chicken breast out until it assumes room temperature, slice into thin strips, and serve over rice or with seaweed!
At least the Japanese usually use only specially grown and treated chicken for that. Trying that with American supermaket chicken would be a daring idea, to say the least.
And even in Japan they have serious issues with torisashi and consider banning it.
Oh god, I fucked myself up with some drunkenly not-grilled-right chicken a couple weeks ago, still not in the mood for chicken lol.
I hope that you don’t end up like me and fish. I ate fish for many years until I had some from the student cafeteria that made me sick for days (not only me). Since then I cannot stand any fish or seafood anymore.
They complain so much even when they have exactly what they claim they wanted. They wanted raw milk, they got it. But somehow all the non-raw milk drinkers are “ruining” something for them? Weird.
Deep insecurity.
They see others doing the right thing & that makes them doubt their entire “purpose” or world view.
Go ahead, drink it ya dummies! Anything to own the libs!
Edit - I’m being sarcastic!
If they catch bird flu, we all catch bird flu. This idiocy should still be discouraged.
Yeah, normally I’m all for morons taking themselves out of the equation, but as with Covid, it won’t be the morons that are most affected. It will be the sick, the poor, the old, and the young.
I mean, yeah I guess, but the majority of us will isolate and mask up. Sooooo 🤷♂️
Case fatality rate could be up to 50%. As mild cases are almost certainly entirely uncounted and the version that passes person to person will be a different variant we don’t know if we are looking at something like covid or a fast moving black death.
Until we need something that can’t be delivered, like medical care.
And I guess fuck all the people who have to do things like keep the supply chain running so you can have your groceries delivered by someone with a “necessary” job being paid very little money?
And fuck all the people who can’t afford to have their groceries delivered too, I guess…
Meh supply chain, I did that before. Masking and isolation worked well enough. I do feel for the medical workers though. Too many of them didn’t have safe options last time around.
Of course masking and distancing are good and helpful precautions. But they’re not enough on their own to protect vulnerable people or people whose jobs mean they can’t isolate. One of the best ways for everyone to help each other is mass vaccination, and if the Republicans obstruct this they will be killing a lot of people who cannot simply keep out of the virus’s way. It sounds to me like you’re probably young, healthy and not working in a factory, a farm, a warehouse, an old people’s home or a hospital, but not everyone is in that position.
Meh supply chain, I did that before. Masking and isolation worked well enough.
How exactly do you think food gets from a farm to your table?
MAGA is a death cult.
Sadly, they want everyone to die, not just them.
So it kinds of balances out with the other ideologies
They richly deserve tuberculosis. Too bad it’ll also afflict innocent people.
So is there a bird flu vaccine I can get yet or what?
No no no no. Just megadose on vitamin C and take since herbal remedies of questionable origin. You’ll be just fine. And if you’re not then we’ll just blame you for not living a healthy enough lifestyle.
Is now a good time to remember that the unregulated supplements market is a huge base of GOP funding?
Absolutely. And I will be enraged but not surprised when RFK has his departments offer them as treatments for bird flu.
Linus Pauling has entered the chat.
You won’t. When Kennedy is in charge of “health”, vaccine promoters will probably be crucified.
We should have a weekly celebration where conservatives drink raw milk together. Just guzzle it all down you idiots.
As someone who stopped drinking raw milk as soon as I became aware of the bird flu issue they have whatever happens to them coming. They’re incredibly goddamn stupid.
I just like non homogenized milk, it’s hard to find pasteurized. Nothing worth dying over ffs.
Your user name is perfect for this comment.
I hear it’s tastier with horse dewormer.
Also binge drink alcohol & smoke all the cigarettes/put in all the dips (because anything that’s horrible for your health they love for some reason).
That will show everyone who chooses to smoke weed and exercise and eat vegetables.
That will get them good.
Darwin award 👍
Combined with H5N1… thy won’t be missed.
There might be one or two far leftists here. Seriously curious, does anyone here think drinking raw cow’s milk is a good idea? Why?
The alt right crowd are weird as shit. Nobody gave a fuck about “raw milk” until the last year or so.
I’ve seen signs for raw milk in the UK now. The local Facebook groups have tinfoil hat types who think there’s a giant conspiracy about Arla (huge milk wholesaler) milk not selling, and taking photos of milk in shops to “prove” it…
The world seems to be in a mental health crisis, and while I’m not suggesting reopening Bedlam lunatic asylum we should probably pay some attention to this. Social media has a lot to answer for
I work at a tailgate market in a left leaning area. There’s always one or two people who come looking for raw milk and I have to explain that the milk we sell is UV pasteurized instead of heat pasteurized, so the proteins are more intact. They’re never satisfied with that. They tend to have accents, so I assume they use to get raw milk in their country, but in their country, the milk isn’t being mixed from hundreds of cows, possible from completely different farms, so the rick of contamination is much lower where they’re from.
I tell them to find a farm and tell them you want to make cheese. It’s not my problem if they want to make themselves sick.
People who make cheese as a hobby have called for the ability to buy raw milk for years.
That said alot of people in the hobby also confuse pasteurization with homogenization. I can get cheese almost as good as raw milk by mixing pasturized skim and heavy cream together. Trying to use Homogenized milk results in a mess.
I think the foothold thought was that pasteurization destroys more than just bacteria, and milk might be healthier and/or tastier without having been changed by that process. Of course taste is largely culturally acquired - example A being Germans and UHT milk - but lots of people fancy themselves taste-o-philes.
Then the mistrust of “them” kicked in, and if “they” said the risk of pathogenic bacteria far outweighed any marginal health benefit, the “truth” must be the opposite.
It’s easier too if you’re the one milking, with the exception that pasteurization also extends shelf life
I feel like it used to be a super far left thing but the spectrum is a horseshoe as I’m sure you know. I also think it comes a bit from the prepper community which tends to be “libertarian”
I grew up drinking raw milk because we were milking 50 head of cows every day. Why make a 50 mile round trip to buy something we 500 gallons of right there in the yard. No one died or even got sick from it. Is it better for you? I don’t know or care. It’s what we had and the price was right. And it’s VERY unlikely any of you would actually want to drink it. And this includes the magahats also. It tastes nothing like the stripped down and flash pasteurized milk you are used to.
That said, for the commercial milk you buy and drink, it’s an absolute must to pasteurize the milk. It’s going to take a week for that milk to get from the dairy to your refrigerator and you expect it last another week or two. And so food safety demands it.
In any case, it’s not illegal to drink raw milk. You just can’t sell it to other individuals. If you want raw milk all you need do is to simply get your own cow and milk it. Then you can drink it all you want.
Because our ancestors did it and they were strong Chads.
I think it was originally a “do we really need the government to mandate this” when they were appealing to the idea of like, a small family farm with people idyllically milking a single cow into a bucket. Then that idea morphed into an actual advocacy of drinking it when it got combined with the sort of “crunchy” “paleo” pseudoscience “health nut” movements.
“Louis Pasteur was a fascist in line with the new world order!” -Big D
Tastes better. Probiotic, so can be healthier. Risk is very low of contamination, low enough that the mandate for pasteurized milk was kinda overblown, but technically safer.
I find the posturing the funniest. Conservatives trying to act tough by drinking raw milk is hilariously tame. It’s like being proud of not wearing sun screen when mowing the lawn. Like, that’s arguably fine either way, but sunscreen is a little safer but…why would you brag about that?
Probiotic, so can be healthier
Objectively not true. Zero actual evidence to support that. Also probiotic in itself is not a real thing and the only scientifically probiotic thing is fiber, any fiber because unsurprisingly to care for your bacteria you… need to feed and protect them not introduce more fuckboy dudes coming in trying to fuck shit up lol.
Also probiotic in itself is not a real thing
Oh please do go and fuck off. I’ve had to spend a ridiculous portion of my life reading the research on probiotics, and how they work is not entirely understood, but it’s a far better established idea than “[introducing] more fuckboy dudes” into the targeted ecosystem.
It’s attention seeking behavior. They blatantly break small rules with (usually) small risks to get a rise out of people. My 5-year-old does the same thing.
Need to kick things up a notch. What we really need is for scientists to start talking about how bad slitting your wrists is. That’s how you get attention.
I hear the “deep state” wants to stop you from eating rotting food. You’re not going to let a bunch of scientists and health department officials tell you what to eat, are you?
/s just in case.
It’s just a different kind of cheese! Cabbage cheese, lettuce cheese, raw ground beef cheese. A bunch of libs ain’t gonna tell me what’s good for me. I’ve got Jesus in my court!
