Need a politics-free safe space? It’s called “going for a walk”

  • TawnyFroggy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Need a politics-free safe space? It’s called stop supporting people who want me dead.

    Like I genuinely get mad when people say stuff like “I don’t want politics in my x” or whatever, because YEAH. ME FUCKING TOO. Do you know how much I would love not feeling on the defensive at all times due to the pending casual extermination of people like me that you are either supporting or ignoring??? If all the libs wanted me to be a lib like them they could have simply not made me life hell.

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      1 year ago

      This is the point everyone misses. They forget that other people have problems even if it’s not happening to them

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      1 year ago

      If they persecute you for having a different opinion that doesn’t enforce anti-tolerance, then they are not liberals.

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          1 year ago

          By vote, not by action.

          If a liberal suppresses your freedom of speech and you are not calling for the destruction of his government (full constitutional change that doesn’t include the entirety of the people or at the very least, prevents the majority’s tyranny) he is not a liberal.

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          1 year ago

          I’m sorry that one whooshed so high over my head I can see it twinkling in the sky.

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            1 year ago

            The expression (don’t know the origin) is “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.” Basically pointing out the historical tendency of liberals to prefer a fascist-managed capitalism if their interests are threatened or it becomes clear the liberal order won’t last (and could be replaced from the left).

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              1 year ago

              Thank you!

              Definitely a valid expression for when liberals dress up self interest in the guise of principles of freedom.

              Not hipocrisy when the left parties enforce the tyranny of the majority though. In that case, the criticism becomes strawman fallacy.

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      1 year ago

      Firstly, that sounds like a shit situation to be in, so please don’t think I’m dismissing your struggles here.

      I don’t live in the same country as you and I have no power to even slightly affect your political situation. I read enough bad news about stuff that I at least have a chance to get involved in that sometimes I want to read some funnies on the internet without having to read about another shit situation. It’s not because I don’t care, it’s because it’s not worth stressing out further about something I cannot do anything about.

      So yeah, that’s why people don’t want so see US politics everywhere. Just because something is very important doesn’t mean it’s very important to everyone.

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          1 year ago

          Do you want to see people suffering? Because that’s fucked up.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            The bare minimum you can do is listen when someone is in pain and stand witness when they are under attack. I want to see when people are suffering, so I can figure out how to help, or at very least show solidarity. Obviously I can’t take this in at all hours of every day, but that’s time I spend alone or with an IRL friend, not on an online messaging board.

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              1 year ago

              Other way round for me, my IRL time contains the serious shit, I come online for escapism

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]@hexbear.net
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                1 year ago

                I don’t know why you would go on the “people talking about events” platform and being surprised people are talking about events that aren’t happy. That’s just poor planning. I mean yeah, be there for your friends, but you should be able to have light or pleasant conversation pretty often, and steer away from troubling topics when you aren’t up for it, far easier than online.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Trans rights are important to everyone and under threat in most of the world, so disagree

        These are all global problems because they’re caused by global systems lead by a global hegemon, the United States

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        How do you know what country they live in and if the issue is relavent in your country or not?