Just found out that my current car will die any day now due to a known defect. It’s out of warranty and I have no money to replace it right now.
I’ve been cursed with car problems my whole life, no matter how well I take care of them, I keep getting screwed.
All of the cars have been Fords because I always heard they were generally dependable and cheap to repair/upkeep, but so far they have all failed me.
What cars do y’all recommend? What cars do you have that just won’t give up the ghost no matter how old/beat up they get? If your life depended on your car lasting as long as possible, what car would you drive?
I want whatever car I get next to last me 10-20 years. I want to be that person posting a picture of the odometer hitting 300k miles. I also don’t care much about features, reliability is key.
Don’t trust what people say from their individual stories. You need statistics of hundreds of cars, not single anecdotes. There must be sites that evaluate cars reliability, average spending on repairs and so on, model by model. Find those.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/ is exactly that!
If you really want a long lasting machine, listen to this person. So much nose in this thread. For example: Subarus, in fact, do not have reputation for being long lasting without major repairs. Most people do not keep a vehicle for 10+ years nor for 300k miles. I have a vehicle that is older than that with 30% more miles. As said above, an anecdote.
Somebody keeps track of the cost of ownership over time. Perhaps a company, maybe a government agency.
Good luck!
The average car age in the EU is 12 years old. Even in richer member states the average is often over 10 years (germany: 10.1, Netherlands: 11.4)
So at least in that part of the world, most people absolutely do keep a vehicle for 10+ years.
Source: https://www.acea.auto/figure/average-age-of-eu-vehicle-fleet-by-country/
I agree entirely with what you are saying, but that doesn’t change what I said about how long people keep the same car. I suspect we are in the midst of the length of ownership increasing, but not to 10-20 years on average.
Spent 10k on a 2014 Subaru Outback with 120k miles, headgasket leak. First and only owner. Whats even worse is brake error light after spending that much. Carmaxed that junk. I will never ever buy a Subaru. Replaced it with a Honda.
Yeah you’re the kind of anecdote they’re warning about
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This whole comment reads like an advertisement for a porn site to someone who doesn’t speak German.
https://www.carcomplaints.com/
Take any site with a grain of salt, but I find they’re usually not too bad for a general idea of what you may be in for.
This one is my favorite and was super helpful last time I was looking for a car. You can see trends year over year in the same generation, so like if the first 2 years of a 4 year run had some chronic issue that was fixed for the last 2, that sticks out.
Yup, the only real gripe I have is a small percentage of the complaints seem to be more user error than design flaw, but that’s to be expected from any review site.
There must be sites that evaluate cars reliability, average spending on repairs and so on, model by model. Find those.
In the U.S., that would be Consumer Reports magazine, available at most public libraries.
Can’t go wrong with Honda and Toyota. They are basically tanks that keep running even when you abuse them.
Just remember, Toyota and Honda may be gold tier for reliability but they still issue recalls too. They’re also overpriced by $5K-$10K because of their reputations.
I don’t see recalls as a problem - they find an issue, they fix it for everyone, for free. The three times my Toyota hybrid was recalled it was back to me the next day, not only washed, but with the interior cleaned as well. They were mainly software fixes I think. The car’s now 12 years old and still bowling along just fine.
Overpriced due to good performance? Sounds like people are just will to pay more to get more
Fully agree with Toyota and Honda with the exception of the 2019 and other same gen versions of the Honda Civic. There is a known defect with the air conditioning system that causes leaks even after repairs and results in a failed AC system. My brother has been plagued with this issue and unofficially Honda acknowledges it but will fight like hell to pretend it doesn’t exist.
Honda is known for crap AC systems unfortunately. No one wants to really acknowledge it but it’s true. I had mine replaced 3x and it still stopped working. Sold it just because you can’t drive an oven and live.
Ouch ya checks out with my brothers car. Had to get it fixed 3 times now. He’s looking to offload it to another unfortunate soul.
No AC, but it still runs, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ya that’s the only issue he’s had but in 40+ degrees it’s rather unbearable and pretty bad considering the issue arose within the first year of ownership and regular use.
Pretty much the only thing that will stop them is rust. They’ll disintegrate long before the motors give up if taken care of properly.
What about Suzuki and Mazda, are they almost as reliable?
Mazda’s are very reliable, especially ones built in Japan. The newer ones have excellent designs, equaling luxury brands on the newest and are still fun to drive. More importantly they’re still inexpensive to fix.
I have no experience with Mazda but there are plenty of old Suzukis on the road where I live.
My mechanic buddies all swear by Toyota, the Prius is rated the kind of car least likely to seen in a shop and pretty much any other Toyota is bullet proof.
Flipside, I will never own a Nissan. Worked at an auto auction for 6 months as an inspector. One thing that was hammered on us is check engine oil even before it went to the auctions mechanic for sludge. The reason it was hammered so hard is because it was a problem. Only with Nissans. In 6 months, hundreds of cars a day, Nissans were the only ones with the engine sludge issue.
The new prius body style is better than before. I hated how their previous models look.
I would recommend electric vehicles too. Even a used electric car will likely need the 12v lead acid battery changed. But the whole car is super sound and reliable from less moving parts. The bolt ev is fast, and the range is long enough for most people. I would only suggest an ev if you can keep it plugged in at home, and since most people live in apartments, the prius is the better choice.
Oh good point, I have a hybrid and just did a road trip this weekend because I wanted to cycle the gas tank after 3 months driving around town.
You know what “Ford” stands for, eh?
Fix It Again, Tony.
But to add something to the conversation, my vote goes to Toyota and Honda.
Anecdotally: Had a 1999 Corolla that I drove into the ground, ignored oil changes, was a stupid teen, and it ran fine until I wanted automatic windows. Currently riding in a Nissan Altima, which seems to be pretty great (as long as the transmission doesn’t fail, which they can do sometimes).
Parents had a Ford Eacort that was a lemon, and a Ford Escape that was a money-pit.
Fix It Again, Tony
Is this a meta joke that I don’t get? That’s Fiats.
I always heard Ford as “Found On the Road Dead”
It’s a joke from King of the Hill, one of the main characters misquotes the joke the way the OP commentor wrote it.
I will say the variation of the Ford joke I’ve always heard growing up was “Fixed Or Repaired Daily.”
First On Race Day
Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge
(But I like yours)
Idk… I’ve had my Escape since 2015 and it hasn’t been a money pit. There was one massive issue it had with a cable for the transmission snapping, but it ended up being a recall so I was completely refunded the money it cost to fix it. I’m not saying they are necessarily the best, but it’s been fine for me is all.
I think with any of these questions, picking a specific brand seems silly. Hell, even a specific model isn’t always a good idea because some of the models made in a specific year might be shit and the next year they might be great. You have to do a lot more research in depth rather than just blindly picking a brand imo.
FIAT is “fix it again Tony”.
Ford is Fix Or Repair Daily.
Honda. The answer is Honda.
As long as you don’t take your a/c into the equation, or have one of the 3.5s that have ring problems.
Friend had an insight with oil consumption issues, so not those either.
Toyota Prius. I’ve seen people in central Asia rock mud and dirt trails with it, that most Westerners wouldn’t dare to go on with their SUVs
2WD cars can do some amazing stuff, especially because the Prius is heavy because of the batteries and has more traction as a result
I agree completely. I have a 2009 that I got second hand, just passed 7 years and I’ve only had minor repairs in addition to regular maintenance.
One caveat - if you have to park on the street, invest in a cage for your catalytic converter. Mine and literally everyone else I know who has a Prius had theirs stolen. That’s the biggest expense I’ve had with mine.
Toyota or lexus are most reliable, Honda (Acura) is a close 2nd. After that it isn’t even close.
Yes ford’s aren’t all bad, especially their international designs are not bad.
After Toyota and Honda the reliable cars to buy are going to be specific models and specific years, you’re going to have to find the many youtube mechanic commentary videos “buy this not that” and do your research.
It may be that rather than buying the most reliable vehicle you avoid buying one of the known worst vehicles. I’ve been there and now I own 2 Toyotas and a Honda.
And it goes without saying, before you buy anything have it inspected by an impartial mechanic you trust.
You will see that Toyotas cost a lot more than other cars. It’s because the cheaper cars end up costing thousands more in the long run because of the many repairs you’re going to have to do. Pay now or pay later.
Honda and Toyota last forever. Incredibly reliable cars.
Toyota and Honda are the most depends and reliable. There’s a reason they hold value the way they do. I have a Toyota Highlander and Honda Odyssey both over 250k miles, still running like champs.
Honda, Toyota, Subaru. Specific models with high sales and as such high parts availability. I’d avoid new models or low sales. It’ll be harder to pick-n-pull parts. The prius claims to be low maintenance and I believe it based on experience. Most issues I’ve had with those brands have been fixable and not too soul crushing. Even the worst prius issue i ever had with a stuck coolant valve I was able to fix myself wigh youtube vids.
Of course this comes with the caveat that you take care of your vehicle. Don’t drive like a moron being harsh on it, perform regular maintenance at proper intervals, do your fluid and filter checks and changes, don’t swing for only cheap products, use full synthetic oil when you can. Use higher quality oil, air, cabin, etc filters within reason. Follow the manual. Set maintenance reminders for yourself. Don’t add unnecessary performance mods. Don’t go to jiffy lube. Be skeptical of mechanics that will screw up your car. Check their work when you can, or do it all yourself. If your car allows it, use better fuels.
Reliable doesn’t equal zero maintenance or zero cost.
On that note. Michelin tires are worth it. Cheap tires are cheap and get replaced more. Tire performance under braking is perhaps the most important safety feature. I’ve never been disappointed by Michelin for performance, safety, or life. Worth every penny every time.
By the way, if you want some fun, go to the car dealer area of your town on random days and check out their service departments. I laugh every time I see places like Hyundai packed in the waiting room.
Subaru is great. I live in the land of eternal winter, and it’s unstoppable. Bought my Impreza diesel two years ago and put 50k kilometers on it with zero mechanical problems. Plenty of used parts out there for a 2011 as well.
I second Subaru. On top of them generally lasting really long if you maintain them well, their ads about safety aren’t lying.
An anecdotal story: One of my coworkers has a Subaru family, and at one point his son was driving and got T-boned by a semi on the drivers side. He walked away with just a few scrapes and bruises. The only person who wasn’t shocked by the story was the Subaru dealer when they went to find a replacement car. Apparently that surviving that kind of incident is pretty normal for people in Subarus.
ETA: If long-term reliability is the only concern, Toyota is def the one you should go with. If you’re at all concerned about a catastrophic accident though, Subaru is still the king of safety, from what I’ve seen on the interwebs. Looks like Toyota’s doing its best to catch up though, so maybe they’ll be the best choice for that, too, in a couple of years.
My mum swears by Subaru cars as well for the same reason - she walked away from what should have been a fatal accident without hospitalisation.
My Honda Civic is 12 years old. I just put new shocks and tires on and it feels like it’s brand new. The thing is rock solid. It’s needed very little work beyond maintenance for normal wear and tear.
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How much were the shocks?
~ $200
Damn i might have to do the same, good price
Depending on where you live, you might be able to consider not getting a replacement. Public transportation and cycling is vastly superior if the infrastructure is available. Costs less, keeps you healthier, better for the environment, less noisy cities, more flexible, etc etc.
Not to mention that a replacement doesn’t need to be a car. An e-bike or a motorcycle might cover needs. Also as to once a year needs, if you go with a cheaper option, you can always rent a car or moving van if you want to.
If your city plan allows for it, I swear by no car. Cars are expensive, and if you don’t need a car for your daily errands and your commute, it may be help to consider ditching it altogether and go by bike and bus/train. After all, you don’t need to worry about paying for & maintaining a car if you don’t have one and the responsibility for keeping your ride rolling is handled by the business. And a plain bicycle takes almost no maintenance and runs on whatever you had for breakfast.
Of course, if you live in a place like Florida or Texas or Ontario outside of central Toronto, you’re fucked.
I’m currently driving a company owned Toyota corolla Fielder, with a cool quarter million KMs on the clock, 260-something thousand to be exact.
Toyota have a legendary reputation for reliability, for good reason.
Pickup owners shit on the Honda Ridgeline and call it “not a truck”, meanwhile their big manly Rams and F-250s live their lives in pure “mall crawler” mode.
The Ridgeline just quietly outlasts all those trucks and does all the furniture hauling and jetski towing that a homeowner needs. And the in-bed trunk (with drain plug!) is a tailgating champ.