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Summary
Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.
The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”
Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.
If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.
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Do it unilaterally without discussing with US.
Why is the fairness meter of the article “unfair left leaning”, when it just reports on something someone said?
I don’t see any opinion piece there, but pretty much just direct quoting
How can this be even left or right leaning? Oo
We Americans have a serious problem labeling anything we disagree with as “those other guys”. I might even say it’s our main problem. We wouldn’t be where we’re at today without the divisiveness and team mentality.
It’s supposed to be for the publication as a whole, not the specific article. No idea what metric they’re using, though.
Nah, it’s article by article.
Hold us accountable and submit your rating of this article on the meter.
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I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.
The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.
If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.
Doctorow advocating for this plan:
- On Democracy Now
- On his blog
- On his podcast
- In the Ursula Franklin lecture at the University of Toronto’s Innis College (I especially enjoyed this one, but it is the longest)
Good for them, maybe our economy will collapse too, and an angry mob will storm the white house and kick Trump out. He can emergency evacuate to Russia, and we can find an administration that isn’t insane.
Heyy… a guy can dream.
I’d prefer we do more than kick Trump out. Like…guillotine them all.
We won’t do shit until we are literally starving. Look right here at Lemmy, non-stop memes and stories about how what horrible economic shape we’re in. So how is everyone fat?! Meanwhile, I go to work and look at what’s for sale, at what prices, and think, “Jesus, people pay for this?!”
Even the Great Depression didn’t have us storming the White House. Think on that.
tl;dr: Americans aren’t near broke enough to band together.
Feel free to get on with that angry mobbing.
sort of the best case scenario
Im still flabbergasted that so many people are just shrugging at what Trump is doing and saying, well, if only Kamala or the DNC did this or that instead. Maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess.
In general, the more a person brags about something, the less true it is — and Americans love to brag about how tough and free they are…
Leftists aren’t capable of self reflection.
I guess you proved your own point.
Best case Ontario.
Cept that is what the rich want. Shit to fall apart. Cuz then they get to buy shit up for cheap and consolidate even more wealth.
The rich aren’t going to be buying anything if the dollar is literally worthless. Hyperinflation is no joke.
The Rich™ want to buy the dip and buy up property (see project 2025). They need the economy to break but not to completely collapse. And then it will “bounce back” enough that they can transfer their USD to other currencies.
Whether trump’s fucking stupidity will accomplish that seems REAL questionable.
That said: Massive power outages (also, this is just the equivalent of a state governor with a crackhead brother saying it to appear strong to Canada’s conservatives) might be what this country needs to get out en masse in places other than the blue states.
Also, they won’t be buying anything if they become festive decorations on fences and lampposts across the country.
Turning the lights off and on is usually how you deal with a cranky misbehaving group of children.
So yeah. Let’s do it just for the sake of the metaphor.
As an American, I agree 100%. Canada needs to kick our ass. We deserve it.
I agree with the sentiment but those states are all pretty blue. Trump might just let it happen to widen the divide and somehow claim that it’s punishment for not bending the knee.
Given that Canadians don’t typically vote in American elections, I don’t see how that has anything to do with us or should affect our decision making.
The USA is tariffing us, not just the red states.
Im gonna tell you right now, as a Canadian, we do not care what colour your states are.
That’s some weird logic. Trump enacts tariffs on Canada,who retaliates in kind, so you’re worried about blue votes. Trump may claim that after the fact, but he’s definitely not playing chess that many moves ahead.
The dude can barely plan a double jump with hopscotch, much less checkers.
That Ozempic chewing orange twat has never physically jumped in his life, let’s be honest.
Trump enacts tariffs on Canada.
Exactly. Trump. Not the states that voted against him. If you want to retaliate, retaliate against Trump. Make him, and the people that voted for him feel the pain.
Look at the things he’s doing domestically. There’s nothing he and his MAGA dipshits love more than sticking it to the blue states. So, Canada doing something that predominantly hurts blue states isn’t going to hurt Trump at all. Quite the contrary, it’s going to give him huge hard-on.
So, if your goal is to help Trump, well then carry on.
Cutting off power in blue states will mean that the energy has to come from somewhere else, which means higher demand, and higher costs across multiple states, also red ones.
And let’s not pretend those “blue states” don’t have very large numbers of maga idiots as well
Washington State, here. Can confirm. Seattle and Bellingham carry the state blue. Them yokels everywhere else vote red.
I’ve literally seen Dixie flags here in Washington. Like, how fucking dumb do you need to be?
What is it you actually think I intended? Are your glasses foggy?
Maybe you guys should just kick out the traitors that very obviously work for a foreign government.
One of Canada’s worst politicians says he’ll do something useful for once.
Incredible watching the downfall of American hegemony in real-time.
Don’t get too excited. Ford loves to talk tough but he’s a fucking pussy.
We’ll see what actually happens. No one here is holding their breath.
LCBO is actively removing American products from shelves.
I do think there’s more technical problems related to decoupling a massive load from the grid, but Ford does seem to be following through with at least some of the promised retaliations. Time will tell if he keeps it up.
Hey pussies can take a pounding.
R.I.P. Betty White
So he’s a big ballsack?
“to cut” is very different from “could cut”
This headline makes it sound way more imminent than I’ve been lead to believe. The first order of business is just messing with things like Florida orange farms and Kentucky bourbon, then we might escalate.
Is it too much to hope this little spat somehow crashes the housing market and this generation can finally own a home? that would be so cool.
Yeah… unfortunately everyone’s pay check will also tank so you still won’t be able to afford it.
Sadly, it would probably crash all of the markets, meaning no one would be able to afford a home because nobody has a job.
It’s nearly universally too much to hope for capital to fail. In Canada, the CMHC and the BoC would make every effort to ensure that housing would not depreciate in value; if you want, you can think of it as essentially their job to make sure you stay a poor renter if you’re under 50.
Yes cut the power. Please do it. Let our stupid government realize they are royally fucking up.
Need to scan the border to make sure they are not running an extension cord through it.
It would be buried, grab your metal detector.
Gotta change the National wifi password as well.
“sorry” was never a good password anyway
Ford is spineless. I doubt he has the balls to do this
Gotta love living in a “democracy” where one team screws over the entire country and the co-dependent team cheers out of spite.
