So, my an online american friend said"My mom didn’t want to vaccine vax cuzs autism". Is he joking? I know many people say thing like that but i thought they all were joking?
In my country which is a third world country no one believe shit like that even my Grand mother who is illiterate and religious don’t believe thing like that and knows the benefit of vaccine.
So this happened…
People are stupid and subscribe to tribalism. It’s very real.
They actually believe it. Despite no actual link being found. Despite the author of the OG article admitting that he falsified data.
People here also believe that mRNA vaccines will rewrite your genes, that the COVID vaccine sequesters in your testicles and makes you sterile and magnetic, that vaccines are less effective than “natural immunity”, that vaccines will feminize you and make you compliant to authority, and that vaccines are ineffective.
I have legitimately heard all of those arguments against vaccines in the wild. For the record, vaccines are one of the oldest and most effective preventative measures we have. There is a reason why the mortality rate for children isn’t +30% anymore, it’s vaccines, and vaccination programs.
It’s a very real belief, lot of folks here weren’t around to know the “before times” and nothing is ever real until it happens to them.
Well, my mom believes it and she’s not even American.
There are people around the world who don’t believe in it. It’s not specific to Americans. You are basing this off one person on both the ends.
As an American that lives 20ish miles from the boarder of Idaho state (on average poor, uneducated, and conservative population), let me tell you its fucking real. Those people are ignorant and proud. It is depressing.
United States citizens have reasons not to trust their government with their health. Trust takes a lot time to build, and recent administrations haven’t been building it.
…therefore vaccines cause autism?
The irony is it was all started with a guy trying to spread FUD over existing measles vaccines to try getting his own vaccines picked up.
At a job in Silicon Valley I had a boss who had an autistic child and my boss told me directly that when they vaccinated their child, the child’s behavior changed, and caused autism.
I have other friends in SV who are huge vaccine skeptics.
So, yes, even in deep blue areas there are anti-vax people. There are also Trump flag flying people in SV too.
Yeah this is a true thing. This person that knows me asked me if vaccines caused my autism.
It’s both. They actually believe it and it’s a joke that they do.
MIL100% believes this. Her son was normal until about 3 and then developed seizures and is now brain damage. She blames vaccines and it doesn’t help a few other kids in area had similar experiences. She thinks there was a bad batch distribution.
Here’s the funny thing, if that had actually happened (bad batch of a vaccine hurt kids) there is an entire Vaccine Injury Fund that will pay out to her. Medical providers have been reporting vaccine injuries for as long as we’ve had vaccines and there’s lots of very real side effects. However, it’s extremely difficult to get the payout because you have to prove the vaccine caused the injury and provide evidence that batches were the same. It’s probably gone with DOGE but the vaccine manufacturers did pay in to the fund so the money is there and always has been if people can provide their allegations.
Depends on which vaccine. There are two agencies, there is the VICP and the CICP. The VICP only covers a short list of vaccines that doesn’t include COVID. (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines). COVID vax is covered by the CICP and doesn’t pay anything out for pain and suffering, only your medical bills for what your insurance didn’t cover from treatment.
I was thinking about the VICP as it’s usually the one involved in child cases. I didn’t know the COVID has an independent one but with the rapid change in vaccine tech, that makes sense.
It’s a loud minority. Also not just in America there are anti-vax people all over the world. Mostly in developed countries where they have eliminated diseases like polio. And where outbreaks of measles are really rare. Anti-vax don’t believe vaccines are necessary since they personally never seen diseases like polio. While everyone in the developing world knows that vaccines are necessary since they’ve seen what those diseases can do to people.
You know the meme Hard Times Create Strong Men, Strong Men Create Good Times, Good Times Create Weak Men, Weak Men Create Hard Times Well antivax are the weak men.
It is a predominant US minority who tries to spread their nonsense worldwide.
The modern anti-vax movement started in the UK with Andrew Wakefield, I wouldn’t be quick to square the bulk of the blame with the US.
It’s a global phenomenon of the gullable, the willfully ignorany, and the vulnerable (usually through personal loss or trauma) - and the fraudsters who wish to take advantage of them.
Wakefield wasn’t anti Vax. He was against the MMR jab specifically. He was also invested in one of the alternative vaccines, and faked data to make money.
His (false) message got garbled crossing the pond, and gained traction in America as a general anti Vax movement.
No there’s really people that stupid. It’s tragic.
And these fuckfaces act like they’re enlightened.
And it’s a growing trend.
