Or at least less so than Reddit. It’s good, but, I can’t put my finger on it. Even when the content is good, the servers are up, and I’m getting notifications responding to comments, it’s never come to me doomscrolling for hours.
Edit: Guys, guys, I’m not trying to say Lemmy should be addictive or Reddit is better because it is. The opposite. I thought being addicted to something was always a bad thing? I was just curious as that I rarely ever see the content droughts people talk about, so I can scroll for as long as I want to with no interruptions, but unlike with Reddit, I don’t, and I would want to know a reason why. Is it psychological? Something behind the scenes? The type of people here?
It’s not supposed to be. It doesn’t jam endless recommendations in your feed once you’ve gotten at the end of the new, fresh content. I feel like it’s a feature, not a bug, to have platforms that don’t optimise for time spent on them, because they don’t need our attention to show us ads.
I’m so happy this is the top comment when I came in here. We’re not centralized social media that requires constant content generation to acquire more views and we shouldn’t try to treat it as such. Donate to your instances when you can, contribute to communities you care about with posts/comments, and then when you reach the end of your feed log off. How forums are supposed to be imo.
I never realized all this but it’s so true. I browse and comment until I’m caught up, then log off.
Wow
Exactly. Places/communities like Lemmy can and should serve different functions for different people - newsfeed, forum, meme collection/dumping ground - but the fine line between value and addiction gets obliterated by moneyed interests.
There is no karma system so no people shitposting and reposting as much to pump up their score. Without this kind of gamification there is less noise.
Basically, no dark patterns built to keep you scrolling.
So then what are the up/down votes for?
Individual post/comment votes. They would only get used for post/comment sorting at best. Nothing more.
Cool, thanks!
Exactly. It shouldn’t be addictive. It should fill a purpose.
Reddit did not fill a purpose. It was mainly skreee all day.
While I’ve some Reddit behavior here for the most part it’s been discussions.
I lean right. I’m not far right. I’m socially more left but fiscally I’m more right.
Reddit was just skreee to me.
Fiscally right?? Does that mean you write a check to Jeff Bezos every month?
Oh fuck that dude. I strongly dislike bezos. His whole business plan is abuse everyone. That’s not my style
I just don’t get this “fiscally conservative” bullshit. You want to cut taxes on the rich as infrastructure continues to crumble? You want to hide your money in offshore bank accounts? You want to implement legislation that funnels unregulated money into corporate bank accounts then forgive all the debt? You want to use campaign finance to accept bribes then have the courts make it legal?
Edit: Maybe it’s you want to raise the national debt to record numbers then years later pretend all the sudden to be “worried about the deficit” and refuse to raise the debt ceiling and threaten to shut down the government.
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Honestly an optional recommendation feature would be cool.
Yeah, I’d like it too, but I suppose it’s a lot of work.
The only person here answering the question lol
Agree’d, people aren’t contributing enough so it seems dead after a 30min check per day (might not be a bad thing).
If lemmy is to thrive and survive, post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.
There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.
Yeah, there is less content, but that’s not really the biggest reason.
There are algorithms working in the background on Reddit to keep you there. Same with pretty much all “social media”. They aren’t on Lemmy. The point of Reddit is to keep you there, and shove as many ads down your throat as possible. Ads don’t exist here, and no one (as far as i can tell) is making money from you being here.
I agree with what you’re saying about the algorithms sucking you in, but disagree that’s the biggest reason. Lemmy just doesn’t have a lot of content, browse HOT or go through your subscriptions and you’re done pretty quick.
If you run out of items to view on Lemmy, you can always go out and, like, engage with family, or hobbies, or grass-touching…
Na, you’re being silly now.
Thunder’s latest update added a dismiss read posts feature, it lets you remove read posts on demand as you scroll, “refreshing” the feed with content you haven’t seen, but without actually refreshing the page.
Lets you scroll a lot deeper into the feed without it feeling “dead” or “stale”.
Good to know!
post, comment and start discussions. That’s what is addictive and provides value.
Just want to +1 this. You’d be surprised how “addictive” it can be to get active. And probably more valuable to you too.
Massively. If you can contribute, ask and learn on a discussion then you get WAY more out of it.
Lemmy is perfect for that atm, reddit you’d get immediately drowned out or some dickhead just dismissing your point and that’s it, done.
Despite being a smaller community, I find I’ve been getting significantly more replies on Lemmy. Maybe it’s easier to get noticed.
No, I will not discuss this with you, nor will I write a comment.
Reddit’s continuous contributions were more shitposts and inside jokes though, so the little I do read here feels a lot more personal and more in depth. It’s pretty nice.
I needed excuses to get the hell off my phone more anyway.
I browse about 5 hours a day according to my phone lol
Not sure. Sort by “All” and “New” and there’s a lot.
Not sure how this statement will age, but I feel Lemmy is here to stay. At least for now. Means it will likely grow over time.
We just need to get those mods from ask historians here and the millions will come I’m sure
For me at least, there’s just not enough content. Not enough communities, with not enough posts with not enough comments. Lemmy still hasn’t reached that tipping point where it can replace sites like Reddit. It fluctuates, but I think it is on the way.
It’s very similar to old Reddit
Reddit eventually got super-specific subs because so many people showed up and made more and more niche content that suited the needs of subgroups in communities. For example, lots of big subreddits banned memes, prompting the rise of specific shitposting groups
We came there, from the digg exodus. Now we’re here, from the Reddit exodus.
Honestly I feel like we’ve all known reddit would go down like digg one day.
I came to Reddit from Slashdot, like, a couple of months before the Digg exodus. It was cool to see it grow so quickly and become the hot new thing, but a lot of the more established users were quick to note the changes in culture. It probably took me those few months just to figure out how the UI worked. It was and is a website of mediocre design.
I always preferred Slashdot and its moderation system, but I’m far too much of a dilettante for its narrow range of conversation topics. I never cared for Digg. It felt too safe.
I know Eternal September brings problems but the large user base at Reddit made sure there was always fresh content and all kinds of weird subreddits. Too bad they went corporate.
But I am shocked to see the pace it’s growing with,and content quality is just(chef kiss)
Beans.
Yep, it doesn’t take long until you start seeing posts that you’ve seen already.
Minecraft communities seem to get a post a week at this point. Wish there was more interaction across the board.
Social media addiction comes from algorithms designed to psychologically manipulate you into scrolling endlessly to maximize ad impressions. It’s not a good thing.
I truly appreciate the fact that I can browse Lemmy for my entertainment, and easily walk away when I need to be an adult and don’t auto smash the button when I open my phone.
To me this is a very, very good thing.
It’s not, but since Lemmy and Reddit seem the same on a surface level (and unlike what many people say, I sort by New and so never see old content), I can doomscroll and waste time on both platforms. However, with Lemmy, this bad habit of mine has been tempered severely, and I don’t exactly know why. It’s a good thing, but a good thing that just came out of nowhere.
Some people here say because there’s no recommendations, which I feel is a good answer, but it feels just a little short. Is that really it?
It doesn’t have the user base of Reddit so it doesn’t feel as addictive but I think with time it could get on par with Reddit.
The biggest issue is Lemmy shows old posts for too long on the front page
It’s like listening to the best band in your town and then comparing it to the music at the top of the global charts. The pure scale means you’re gonna get better bands if you include “everyone”. But I totally also hope Lemmy gets bigger. As a platform it isn’t inferior in terms of UX. We just need everyone to switch.
Tbh, I find most of the music on top of the global charts to be obnoxious bullshit.
That’s fair. Let’s rather go with a music platform. That has everything.
Change sorting to “Top 6hr”. I browse by Hot sometimes but that’s my primary sort atm
I find it’s better when I sort by top 6h
The biggest issue is Lemmy shows old posts for too long on the front page
There is an easy solution to that:
That doesn’t have to be a bad thing. I commented on posts that were weeks old or a month old. Reddit had this bad habit that everything older than 30 minutes was irrelevant already.
Sure, seeing old posts doesn’t help to create an image of activity. But don’t think that something old is irrelevant, unless it’s a news post.
For me I think it’s the niche communities aren’t built up yet. If I’m looking for a conversation about a specific football team or game, etc there isn’t as much content here that I can find on Reddit.
Same.
Though, honestly though I’m not even sure what I’m interested in at this point.
I mostly just shitposted in r/politics and occasionally handed out advice in r/writing.
Kinda feels stuck in a rut, you know?
Because it’s kinda dead… I won’t go back to Reddit but Lemmy doesn’t scratch the same itch Reddit did. This is my first comment on Lemmy by the way.
That’s legit! Glad to have witnessed your first comment!
If not for the fact that the ttrpg community was so important to me on Reddit, I’d probably not have migrated over, as addicted as I was to the generic /all content on Reddit, I’m glad to be rid of it.
But lemmy is yet to be able to sustain the equivalent community, I want to have access to that infinite pool of topical conversation that I can’t find anywhere, I won’t go back to Reddit but it’s just getting smaller here on Lemmy.
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Takes a deadboy to know a deadplatform, I guess.
16 billion years of evolution and still nobody asked if it’s your first comment on lemmy. Joking obviously, welcome to lemmy!
“kinda dead” is the last way I’d describe it. Dead like i95 compared to LA? I guess…
I feel that I am wasting more time on Lemmy than on Reddit because here the community is more to my liking (foss and linux)
Don’t even get me started on 🏴☠️
Only because I can read the whole thing significantly faster than Reddit.
I see no videos or gifs on here, which is a huge addiction factor
Be patient.
Lemmy is still establishing itself as the goto replacement for Reddit. New communities are popping up all the time and more users will come.
I’m excited for it! I’m personally trying to build some of the really niche communities that were big before, like the tiny EarthBound one.
Thing is, though, is the site really growing? After most have just put up with Reddit’s bullshit, I can’t really find recent statistics of Lemmy’s active user base. And the few results I could find just show it’s being stagnant, or even shrinking. I could be wrong, though, if it is growing, even better!
fedidb.org is good.
We’re still in the downturn from users who tried Lemmy, and then stopped using it. They are now dropping off the active usercount, causing it to go down.
Total usercount is still increasing, meaning new users are still finding their way here.
That’s actually a much more likely situation, sinc all of these sites use the monthly active users of it’s main metric, and it’s been 2 months since Reddit shot itself in the foot.
Honestly, I was so close to not using Lemmy at all. It looked so alien to me, like is this really the next most popular community website to Reddit? But no matter how clunky and unintuitive it was, I was determined to make it work. After some good third party apps, I’m more than satisfied.
However, can’t be said for everyone. It’s clear most people made an account, had no idea what an “instance” was, and then just gave up. Lemmy should invest in making their main website easy to learn and get the hang of, and try to become more popular, accessible, and branch out. Some might say how small it is gives it charm, but undeniably more people (maybe not on one instance) is better.
What this first wave has done is moved over a lot of early adopters, those types of people overlap with innovators.
Lemmy improved massively during the wave, and we are now getting great apps.
I for one will push for making signing up for an account in Thunder possible, so we can build better UX around joining Lemmy.
Lemmy itself has also seen a big jump in quality. There is now Photon, an alternative frontend that’s a lot slicker, and can be installed by instances to replace the current webUI.
The next time something triggers people to go look for something else, Lemmy will be looking a lot more ready.
Have a look at [email protected]
Communities are growing
Growing is not linear, particular not when competing with a larger alternative.
What basically needs to happen is that Reddit needs to fuck up a couple of more times. Some smaller stuff will net some users, largest stuff, many. After a while critical mass has been reached and it’ll be easier to grown naturally.
Well, that’s at least what I think needs to happen. I’m fully confident Reddit will fuck up as well. Though, this is a marathon, not a sprint.
Lemmy has zero monetary gain from you being addicted to the platform unlike Reddit.
Lemmy’s smaller community means that there’s not an endless stream of content to keep you hooked.
Even with millions of active users though I don’t see Lemmy being nowhere near as addicive as Reddit
We need to up the porn a little to beat reddit. Let’s be honest, porn is what wins technology battles. Plus using the reddit app to look at stuff is just fucking miserable. I don’t even look at that much but being single currently, it’s what I got.
It’s not going to happen as most instances will defed as it’s not worth having the legal hassle of hosting porn on their own server, including possibly illegal material depending on where they’re located. It isn’t hard to find porn on the internet, we don’t really need it here too.
Yep, not to mention it’s hard to find here. Even if I put on all, I can’t find any. Plus there aren’t that many people posting any even on those instances specifically for it.
Lemmynsfw.com and pornlemmy.com are slowly rising.
They’ll get there
You can use lewy.world to make an NSFW account.
Porn
Cats
Memes
Too much repeated content on my feed. I like it, but I need to be able to auto hide previously viewed posts for this platform to be the kind of doomscroller reddit was.
Sort by top six hour.
Also feel free to block any communities you don’t care to see.
Not sure what you’re using to browse Lemmy, but I believe the Connect app offers this functionality
I feel like that’s the point? Lemmy doesn’t profit from wasting our time, so it has no interest doing so. This means more time for me to do productive things.
I check it 2-3 times a day, feel happy. I don’t feel the need to check it 30 times a day. I’m happy.
This is the way.
