• TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    So if you invade another country and as part of their defense of their country, their military enters your country, they’re now the aggressors?

    Do you apply that principal to all conflicts, or only against enemies of the West?

        • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          So let me get this straight: if the US/Canada were hostile with each other, and the people of Alberta, Canada, were separatists that allied themselves with the US, but the Canadian government refused to recognize Alberta’s sovereignty, you would support a full-scale, deadly American invasion of Canada?

          • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            To be clear, to be a true analog the province needs to be an ethnic minority which is being targeted by the national government.

            Say Alberta was the only majority English speaking province, and Ottawa started putting up statues of a Quebecois terrorist leader from 80 years ago who lead the massacre of 100k English speakers and allied with Hitler during WW2, then they announced that English would be banned from all government facilities including primary schools, and when Alberta tried to secede they sent Nazi paramilitary death squads to harass them and started bombing them daily.

            At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

            • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              At that point, if the US interceded and went past the Albertan border to attack other military targets in Canada, you would consider that a war of aggression by America against Canada and not them defending their ally, Alberta?

              If America’s massacring civilians in Ottawa and Toronto? Yes, of course I would. Any sane person would. Stay in Alberta.

              You people call yourselves anti-war? I think you’re the real liberals here.

              • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                What number of civilians have to die before your defensive war is an unacceptable war of aggression now?

                Did the Allied counter offensive against the Nazis come in below that number? How about the Union during the US civil war?

                • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  You people are pro-war whenever it’s convenient for you I guess. Those comparisons are out of line and clearly different as I already explained.

                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.net
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Sounds like you’re the one who’s pro-war whenever it’s convenient for you. When it’s not convenient, you just say “that’s different!” And refuse to elaborate.