Summary
President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.
The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.
Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.
Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.
This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.
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That pardon smells fishy, but I can understand that he does not want to leave his son exposed to imprisonment under Trump. Donald has shown time and again that he has no problems in going after weak persons to extract petty revenge.
That’s funny because people say, despite the threats, he didn’t actually imprison anyone. Hillary comes to mind but I wasn’t paying attention enough to know who else he said should he locked up.
Because there were no actual prosecutable actions to convict anyone for, the republicans were just assembling one “special investigation” after another in an effort to waste everyone’s time. Come to think of it, most of the things conservatives scream about are akin to a child’s tantrum that you just try to mitigate until they’re quiet enough to sit down and get some work done…except we keep feeding them sugar and cartoons instead of putting their childish plantation asses to bed.
I’m no Trump supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but during his initial presidency, it felt like both sides were throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck. Endless investigations and political tantrums that ultimately led nowhere and set the stage for the chaotic timeline we’re living in now.
That was no “both sides” thing. The crimes that Treason Trump is guilty of are very serious. Our democracy has been seriously hurt by him not getting punished, it is just something that is not immediately obvious, like a rotted out board. Nothing that Hunter Biden did remotely rises to that level.
Trump’s actions have been shady and potentially illegal, but calling them “treason” is a stretch. Critics seemed determined to paint him as a villain early on, before any lines were even crossed. Yes, he withheld documents, just as Clinton deleted emails, and both cases left unanswered questions about what might have been compromised. As for Hunter Biden, he’s not a public official, but the scope of his pardon raises fair questions about the past decade.
January 6 is no different - blaming the insurrection entirely on Trump is oversimplified. He questioned the election, but nowhere did he explicitly tell people to storm the Capitol. The idea that an uncoordinated mob could even overthrow the government is absurd. What were they going to do; occupy the Capitol and declare victory? This exaggerated narrative is politically convenient but ultimately baseless.
Like I said, I’m not a Trump supporter and haven’t voted for him in any of his campaigns, but these repetitive talking points have been dragged out and beaten to death, accomplishing nothing while distracting from real issues - especially with him set to return to office in just over a month.
Critics seemed determined to paint him as a villain early on, before any lines were even crossed.
WTF Dude Treason Trump blatently crossed so many lines. Trying to overturn the will of the voters IS LITERALLY THE MOST UNAMERICAN THING ANY POLICITIAN CAN EVER DO.
He questioned the election,
He did way more than that. He tried to bully people into overturning the will of the voters. Every single day from the election day in 2020 to Jan 6.
Here are 164 pages of details about those crimes.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2024/10/gov.uscourts.dcd_.258148.252.0.pdf
Agreed, the end of his presidency was chaotic af. But like I said, I’m talking about the beginning—before he even had a chance to do anything.
The barrage of petty scandals and issues thrown at him is what got him interested in running in the first place.
Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.
In a world where we keep poking each other’s eyes out, everyone ends up blind.
Stop both sides bs, this is a guy pardoning his son’s addiction, not committing treason, attacking the capital, or selecting a cabinet of pedophiles. Have some fucking humanity, putibot.
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Fuck that. Playing dirty in this instance does zilch to help you. Why the fuck would you support this? How does Hunter Biden being pardoned help you or anyone else at all? Democrats are okay to play dirty when it is done defending basic rights for Americans, not for the political elite. Hunter is a grifter and he should absolutely face the consequences.
Why the fuck would you support this?
Because I’m tired of watching the Dems be held to a higher standard and taking the high road and honoring decorum and losing to a corrupt as fuck party of traitors.
Americans voted for corruption, so now they’re going to get it. Hopefully we get so fucking corrupt it actually makes us act like adults and vote more intelligently. Doubt it. We’re probably done for. But that’s our own fault.
“Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.”
Both things are true though. The pardon power exists as a check on the judicial branch, so it certainly undermines it in the same way that the veto undermines legislative decisions by congress. The constitution gives the president the authority to do some pretty blatant undermining, but checks work in the other direction too if the branches are acting as co-equals and not just shilling for one of the others.
It undermines what we liberals value: playing by the rules without exploiting them for our own selfish benefit. Yeah, the rule is that you can do this as POTUS, but it looks bad, and can be selfish or self-serving the way trump does it. His way is straight up corrupt. We don’t want to be like that. It separates us from them. So even if this saves HB from further persecution by the Talibangelicals, it still feels like we collectively get mud on us when Biden pulls the same stunt trump does.
i would have said ‘no’ a little while ago but now fuck it, the people have spoken. the problem now is that he isn’t doing enough fuckery to benefit the people. supreme court declared that the president is above the law and he isn’t doing anything with that. sc did it for trump but biden could and should use it. literally send everything on the dod depot to ukraine, give unlimited funds to solar and wind, forgive every loan and shoot modafukin steve bannon in the face
Agreed. Fuck 'em. I’d have been bothered if the system held accountable the horrible people that are about to come to power. At this point Hunter’s crimes look like a joke on this background.
Democrats are twisting this as a great thing now after Biden said he would never do this, what a total bunch of hypocrites.
Once again more “it’s okay when our side does it” from them.
Democrats and Trump are now even. Both witch hunts can be dropped.
GTFO with the “both sides” nonsense. Treason Trump tried to overthrow Democracy. Him getting away with that is going to cause serious future harm to the country.
Just like Biden pardoning his son while he’s clearly guilty of the charges. Hunter is not being politically hunted, like say, Trump. Who knows if Hunter forced Biden to pardon him or else he’ll reveal damaging information.
“Both sides” is always applicable. Democrats caused serious harm to democracy when they attempted to install Harris after they bullied Biden to step down
