There’s something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what’s going on China and saying out loud, “Their economy is a ticking time bomb.” This is almost an onion news story.
Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.
I’m disappointed, there’s no representation of him having interaction with supernatural beings.
Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?
why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!You’re the only lying manchilds here.
Fuck the CCP.
It’s actually the CPC, the Communist Party of China, the CCP is the Cuban Communist Party, hope this helps
Most people call it CCP, that’s even what’s taught in schools genius.
American schooling strikes again.
A damning condemnation of your education system, to be certain
Perfect response honestly
trust me i know everything about them ,( exept their actuall name … )
It VERBATIM translates to “CCP” in English. The CCP does not get to dictate how it’s translated to in English.
“Most people”
Yeah, if you don’t consider non-whites to be people
It’s literally the most common English name for it. Grow tf up
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about
Go to the official website of the party and see what they call themselves (in English)
So brave!
With hexbear federating it’s nice to see you have a well deserved vacation from
ha
engaging sexual intercourse with the cpc now
On one hand you are breaking the Volcel oath. On the other hand, based.
our site
You’ve been here 3 days.
our site
lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.
NO, PRIVATIZE IT NOW, PRIVATIZE IT NOW
Well fuck you, you should get kicked out.
Why? Because he’s spitting facts? You really need to log off and have some fresh airs outside
what do you mean, “you people”?
and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.
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A homophobic Catholic; how unsurprising
You literally don’t know my sexuality. Telling someone to suck dick is like an incredibly common expression.
Why is it so common 🤔
And why is it being common a defense? It was once common to own people, is that also OK?
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the state is more answerable to the people than a non-state capitalist is.
It wouldn’t be my first choice but it would be an improvement.
you’ve made it extremely clear that you don’t read, but I’m going to leave a link here for fun anyway
you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?
Casual homophobia to own the tankies
How is it homophobia? I would’ve said the same thing for anyone of any pronoun tags. What makes you so sure I might not be LGBT?
yeah because there aren’t any homophobic queer people. that’d never happen.
Telling someone they suck a man’s dick as an insult is pretty basic homophobia. Unless you meant it as a compliment, then by all means I hope
gets his knob schlobbed for all his hard work.I mean, it could be misogyny. Lets not rush to judgement.
No it isn’t. I would’ve been equally as likely to tell them to suck Xi’s dick if they were a woman. It’s a pretty common insult.
You used so many words to tell us you have no clue.
Your tone is that of a teenager and I suspect you do not know how to define state capitalist, or alternatively you don’t know as much as you think about the Chinese economy.
What is it with the homophobia and misogyny? Do you understand that using deepthroating is accusing someone of being the receptive participant in the sex act, and that cultural norms expect that person to either be a woman or a gay man? Do you understand that you’re trying to insult someone by accusing them of being a woman or a gay man engaged in a sexual act that you apparently find to be demeaning or shameful? I mean, like, okay, Catholic, so hating queer people and women should be assumed, but are you actually aware you’re doing it or is it just a reflex?
It’s a common fucking expression. You’re overthinking it. You never say “this sucks?” Give me a fucking break and stop discriminating against my religion.
Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess
Go in the real world kid. 99% of people of all politics will not like China.
You’re such a redditor
It’s also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.
You’re really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans
very satisfied with their government
https://www.csis.org/analysis/public-opinion-china-liberal-silent-majority
Nnnnnothin’ personnel, kid…
That’s ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we’re 18% of all humans.
Here’s an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.
Here’s Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.
Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it’s a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.
CatholicSocialist’s criteria for who counts as people:
I think you’d be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it’s accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.
Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.
I wasn’t talking about people in countries that have been bribed.
lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?
No… because they never fulfill their promises.
Most POC do not like China either, it’s only a few countries.
“I only want a government that doesn’t do good things for me!”
The nefarious Chinese are tricking people into supporting them by checks notes improving their material conditions.
Thank God I live in America where I’ll never have to worry about the government doing that.
dirty browns bribed by the dirty yellows
You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?
In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it’s damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.
They do it for free! They don’t even get paid to spout US State Department propaganda lmao.
At least we get Xi-bucks.
Maybe the US should start “bribing” with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever
You know the US is upstanding because it won’t even bribe its own citizens by giving them anything that would improve their lives no matter how hard they vote. True democracy!
Hmmm
China
helped other counties improve the material conditions of their peoplebribed the dumb dark folk.[laughs in IMF loans]
Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them
In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you’re doing kid.
Will no one rid me of these meddlesome hexbears!?
That phrase does Critical damage VS Catholics
lemmy user posts on lemmy
“why would hexbear do this?”
Same energy as calling any bad thing done by Americans as “like North Korea”
Go back to Reddit with the other bazinga dipshits
Disagreeing with you isn’t spam.
Spamming any thread we post about China is.
What makes it spam? We’re invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don’t link with us atm).
If you meant flooding, it’s not that either. We’re a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we’ll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?
Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a “silent majority” of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post
Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn’t keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It’s one of the main reasons they quarantined us.
You assholes are single handlely ruining the lemmy experience. We need to defederate ASAP.
You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.
your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed
our site
sorry to break it to you, but the person who runs your instance might be more aligned with the hexbears than with you.
Have you considered turning the other cheek?
Have you considered gtfo?
We have to put up with you too, you realize.
Excuse me, I’m here to show my support for Comrade Joe
it just so happens to also be a China thread
p.s.
You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa
“you people”
“You people” as in an overwhelmingly White-American group of people that spends their free time defending a brutal regime.
Hey there it is!! “Brutal regime” describes things like the ongoing cultural genocide of indigenous peoples, which itself is a continuation of the brutal mass murder and subjugation of those peoples. A BR (brutal regime) does things like enforce debt against Haiti for having the audacity to free itself from slavery and using the debt to ensure the white financiers who bought those slaves don’t lose any money while simultaneously refusing to engage in any form of reparations. A BR separates children from their parents for an an unbroken multi-century program of violent oppression against non-whites. If you rank every country in the world by the most bombs dropped on it, there’s only one BR that is responsible for the top 3 most bombed countries in the history of the world.
But do go on about how those ebil Chinese are so compliant in approving their government for 15 years at a rate of 95% (just ask Harvard) despite that government being a “brutal regime”. Must be something in their culture, right?
Dude, take a break!
I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can’t be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?
I’d say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.
You seem to haven’t accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.
I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.
What you do is obviously up to you!
Our secret is that we get a 20$ kickback from a cardiologist in Fresno every time one of these people pops. It’s not honest, not is it much, and yet we soldier on.
you’re getting cash? he’s only giving me these shitty coupons for $2 off a footlong
h shit I spilled the beans!
I found a website that doesn’t have those loser Hexbears. Here let me show you.
Was hopping this was a PPB link.
Please don’t 🥺🙏
Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
They’re either clueless teenagers that only know the things they’ve learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.
Why would we make ourselves scarce when some one drops a link to the wikipedia article on Tiananmen Square?
Imagine thinking the most Redditor-ass reply of linking to Wikipedia of all places on a topic they are already familiar with is useful. Do you believe the Reddit myth about wumaos being shot whenever they see the phrase “Tiananmen Square Massacre” is true?
Oh no my kill-switch has been activated! Tell my family in the re-education camps I love them! /cyberpunk brain asplode noises
OOOH. A link to wikipedia. The forbidden knowledge!
It’s so scarey.
But on the other hand, the tanks didn’t even run over that guy (CW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6F2AqzdXuI&pp=ygUhdXMgcG9saWNlIHJ1bm5pbmcgb3ZlciBwcm90ZXN0b3Jz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-pJTOzyEkI
Technically, Tank man ran over the Tank. Easy to see how people got that turned around.
Doesn’t look like posting that link did anything
The CPC has disbanded, hong kong is now a british colony again. All thanks to this post.
I hope you are happy with what you’ve done
Why? We all know that about 300 people, mostly pla soldiers and insurgents, were killed in fighting blocks away from the square, while all the students in the square evacuated peacefully after the pla issued a final ultimatum.
this is one of the dumbest posts of all time. it should be in a museum
Can I get a :debate-pervert: from a lemmygrad comrade?
Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.
This is either a bit or a masochist lol, just straight up inviting the dogpile.
Yeah I get like 50 responses to my comments everyday… been reported as a bot multiple times. Given their tactics, my suspicion is the hexbear is a 50 cent army hive, but haven’t confirmed this yet. Could be just kids that spent too much time on TikTok that don’t know how terrible the PRC is. Or a mix of both. But likely just 50 cent army.
But meh, if it’s wasting more of their time than mine, we’re winning.
Sir please keep the good name of Mr. Cent out of your Liberal mouth. .50 Cent got shot 9 times and recovered to be both a great rapper and the protagonist of a really bad X-box shooter. You accomplishments pale in comparison with his career.
‘Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.’
I hope you’re having as much fun as we are!
I fucking wish Xi was paying me, marg bar amerika
Are you winning son?
But likely just 50 cent army.
Sorry, but I’m actually not allowed to get paid for my China posts because of a noncompete clause I signed from when George Soros hired me as a crisis actor. I’m not allowed to be a paid actor in any other conspiracy theories right now, so I’m just defending China pro-bono to keep my posting skills sharp so I can try to get on as a wumao once my contract is up.
What’s a 50 cent army bro. Is that some bazinga brain NAFO inside joke or something
You really think none of us have read that article huh?
oh no, that link appears to have broken my internet!
now my web browser can only take me to this page: https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine
Sure more past grievances from fascist hexbear. Yeah yeah the British were horrible colonizers. I can say that where I live.
But how about we discuss how you feel about the Tiananmen Square massacre. But of course you can’t because you’re afraid of the repercussions of discussing it even today, don’t you?
I do love how you keep playing to Tiananmen Square card like it’s all 5 pieces of Exodia against Hexbears (supposedly) and it repeatedly has no effect.
The times in your past where it’s worked, it may have been with teenagers that support China to be edgy.
We’re educated who understand China’s faults and side with China over US/UK/Can anyway. But you simply can’t comprehend people that think China’s positives outweight it’s negatives without them being paid 50 cents a post.
I feel sort of a warm, minty sensation. I really appreciate the students willingness to boldly confront the Deng government to voice their opposition to the imposition of liberal market economics, and I’m sympathetic to their position that social conservativism and a very restrictive public culture was not in line with communist practice. It also demonstrates the delicate balance of power between the party and the people.
Tiananmen Square? That was thirty years ago, why are you bringing up past greivances like a fascist? Kind of sus to me dude
You know they teach about it in China, right? You’re so far up your own ass you’re just telling stories about stories you’ve been told and none of them have anything to do with reality.
reddit moment
Here, I’ll post an article as well, hopefully nobody “makes themselves scarce” because of it: https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/
Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.
looks down-thread
Oh no… they deployed… The Link!
The religious faith and certainty Liberals have in the significance of the Jun 4th incident is utterly bizarre.
“Here, take this pitcher of kool-aid. The bees tend to make themselves scarce if you pour it all over yourself”
Do they make themselves scarce? You haven’t done your research then: https://hexbear.net/post/301934 (technically OP on Lemmygrad but it counters your premise still)
Damn you owned us we’ve never seen that article before you posted it lmao
At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.
Yeah yeah, I’ve heard that before. There’s a whole cottage industry of “experts” that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.
China’s economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.
Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.
But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn’t think about that, stupid tankie.
It’s a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.
Well, actually it’s because China’s roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.
The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.
To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one “low interest rates” lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably won’t pass.
Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cards…
china believes in the heart of the cards
This is what China wanted their relationship with the US to be like but our ruling class is just too evil and shortsighted for that
People (westerners) pick on China because they want it to collapse. It’s entirely wishful thinking.
If that’s the case then the US’s economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table
If you think China’s economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.
The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn’t be labeling other countries as “ticking time bombs.”
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By my estimates, China has only 70 more years until complete and utter collapse!
Only one answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCV8O_EkM4w
Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously
Uhhhh China has almost 5x the homelessness as America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population
Buddy, you realize you’re quoting a source from 2011? Over the past decade GDP/capita in China has more than doubled and the number of people living below the poverty line has dropped from 100 million to less than 1 million.
Do people not check facts anymore? Jesus fucking Christ man. It’s like y’all never learned the basic scientific process.
Do people not check facts anymore?
Likewise, do people not cite sources for their own claims?
Heard of Google?
Heard of the burden of proof? Lead by example and Google it first
Besides, providing sources isn’t just to support your ideas, but for people to evaluate the quality of your info and gauge your integrity. 101 stuff, but go on lecturing about the scientific process while practicing none of it yourself.
So… You have no counterargument, no source for your 2015 claim, and nothing of value to contribute? Carry on.
You’re one of the biggest failures of democracy: democracy assumes people discuss in good faith. Meanwhile, you use decades-old data to provide misinformation while pretending to be informed and follow it up with uncited claims… Because, reasons?
Here, I’ll help you Google:
[GDP per capita] https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/gdp-per-capita
[Poverty rates] https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/37727/9781464818776.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y
[Link between poverty and homelessness] https://pure.hw.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/7467281/Homelessness_Poverty_FullReport.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE9fGM8NeAAxXcgv0HHdvWArIQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1BQARSj9oJ_XIjT4rz1cu_
You’re one of the biggest failures of democracy
Where do you think I live?? xDDD
Here, I’ll help you Google:
Help me?? lmao Dude, that’s your fucking homework. It’s late and half-assed so I’ll give you a C. Nice try throwing around a 100+ page PDFs around like that means anything. You give a quote with a page number, Mr Scientific Method dude.
Now go forth practicing what you learned today instead of being a giant hypocrite, little grasshopper.
Buddy, I’m talking homelessness specifically, not just poverty. Show me proof China’s reduced homelessness significatly. Because the most recent figure I could find was 2015… where there was an additional 500,000 homeless people from 2011, largely due to exploited migrant labor.
I love not accounting for population size! However, let’s see how the countries can be compared when we do:
Uhhhh China has 4x the population of the US
Uhhhh the US has more people in prison than China despite having 4x less people in the country
But 5 is bigger than 4
Why bring up prison, is this a general “which country is worse” discussion?
A lot of homeless people do end up in prison both for all of the anti-homeless laws in various cities. For some folks it may end up being a better option than just outright dying in the streets from lack of food, medicine (love how the richest nation can’t put our tax money into anything that actually helps all of us), and/or from the elements. So while your point of bringing up prison population is a valid one. It is still (in part) related to homeless population numbers, just not totally useful by itself.
That being said, I do think that China is actually putting much more effort into dealing with the problem. As bringing people out of poverty/homelessness is crucial to keeping support of the masses. When enough people are just tossed out and can’t get help. It will lead to dramatic and very widespread revolts and even civil wars. That is true for any nation, no matter what system is in place. Socialist nations were birthed by such widespread poverty for the many while the few hoarded the wealth and resources. It is kind of one of the main points Marx and other anti-capitalist theorists base their shit on.
Executed people aren’t homeless or imprisoned, either.
BRO WHY ARE THERE 600+ COMMENTS HERE, I’VE NEVER SEEN THIS EVER
Because China was mentioned by a
We hit 1100 the other day
1003 now
USA probably exploded an actual bomb somewhere while he said that.
CHINA COLLAPSING ANY DAY NOW
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From my vantage China looks like it is in a stronger position
The old federation is dying, the new one struggles to be born. Now is the time of unlimited China struggle sessions.
