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    Yes, Ron, everyone knows Clean Coal™️ is the one true source of non-pollution.

    Is anyone stupid enough to believe this?

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        Yep. They’re trying to get their lies in as these children’s first belief on the matter. Anyone pushing a different view (such as the truth) will then have to defeat this belief first. Same thing religions do, because they know their stuff doesn’t stand up to neutral mature scrutiny.

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    “attacking solar and wind because “their batteries break down and become hazardous waste””

    My solar array has no batteries, it powers the house during the day and generates 2x to 3x the power which is fed back to the grid which gives me credits that pays for the energy we use after the sun goes down

    My “electric bill” went from over $100 a month to $13, which is really just the associated taxes and fees.

    I guess nobody explained that setup to him.

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    PragerU has produced anti-climate policy videos since shortly after it began in 2009. The Prager foundation has received millions of dollars from the billionaire brothers, Farris and Dan Wilks of Texas, who made their fortune in fracking.

    PragerU has received additional funding from foundations that oppose climate regulations such as the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.

    PragerU CEO Streit said her group has tapped into angry parents who want their politics reflected more in classrooms.

    Yup.

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      If someone is lobbying for climate change denial then they’re guilty of something morally akin to treason, but it’s not treason itself because instead of just betraying just their country they’re betraying their entire species.

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    Instead of discussing this at such an abstract level, Does anybody have a link to the actual material to form an informed option?

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        As a point of view, I don’t see anything objectionable in that video to expose kids to. It does seem to have an underlying sales pitch, but so does most of the videos I’ve seen on green energy. 

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            I prefer it that way. Let kids do their own research. They are just putting out a point of view in that video that is not crazy. I can only talk to that one video. I think this entire thread just highlights how talking about serious topics in forums like these is impossible. Most posts are not about the issue at hand. They mostly are about claiming the other side is evil.

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              School has always let kids do proper research. Except now Florida is banning that and making kids watch oversimplified youtube videos full of logical fallacies instead of using proper lessons.

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              Let kids do their own research.

              That…that’s the whole point of school! Condensing centuries of human knowledge and research so that you have an educated populace ready to make decisions in the field based on good information they were taught in school (then later on in life making decisions based on the good information they learned in the field and from others)

              They are just putting out a point of view in that video that is not crazy.

              That’s how most indoctorination works, start by using logical fallacies and false premises that aren’t immediately obvious to non-experts on the topics

              Most posts are not about the issue at hand. They mostly are about claiming the other side is evil.

              Climate change isn’t something you can “both sides” you’re either intentionally threatening the survival of the human race (and most other life on earth) or youre a sane human being. You have to be morally bankrupt to even try to “both sides” climate actions on random Internet forums

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    reminder: the greatest things you can do to help the environment: Go Vegan; Don’t have kids; if you can, walk/catch public transport/cycle.

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          Nah, any reduction is good, including social encouragement for others to join you in things like going car-free. Plus, outside of the environmental effects, cars are horrifically unsafe things when used en masse, and every one we take off the road makes our neighbors safer.

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            When you subtract 1 from 1,000,000, you wouldn’t be wrong in saying there is a reduction, but is it significant enough? Or is it just febreezing a giant pile of shit?

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            Right? It’s like people want to be forced at gunpoint to do the things they know they SHOULD be doing now. What the fuck??

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              Who says I’m doing nothing? Im just saying you don’t understand human behavior if you think that “we just need to change” is the answer. People are lazy and need incentive to do shit. So systemic implementations are always going to be more effective.

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      Ok so I have a question about one thing in your list.

      If you don’t have kids then you would not have people to continue your virtue and belief on the next generation. While the people who are denying climate change have all the kids they can spit out of their body. And guess what, children are the ones who have a higher percentage of continuing their parents beliefs.

      So in a few generation their side will outnumber your side.

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        Climate change really has to be solved in this generation. You’re thinking too long term, we don’t have that kind of time.

        Additionally, not all children of climate sociopaths become sociopaths. The planet increasingly makes a convincing argument even for those who weren’t taught to hear. That’s why the old propagandists have to ramp up their effort

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        You can still do that by adopting kids someone else made. No sense adding to the population when some kids already don’t have parents.

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          yup. there are HEAPS of loving kids needing homes. There’s no need to add to an overpopulation already when there are so many kids needing homes already.

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          You make a good point but then again, the numbers game would still be tilted in favor of those who multiply the most.

          Why not have 1 child and adopt another, preferably of the same age so that both children won’t be lonely and have someone to depend on as family when the parents are gone.