• vidumec@lemm.ee
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    i feel like blocking of instances leads to worse echo chambers than subreddits themselves. We gonna have bubbles of federation networks that don’t federate with each other. E.g. lefties, righties, “dark web” illegal shit, kinky shit, and instances that federate with all of them will be blocked by other instances because “use my blacklist or get defederated”. This is gonna lead to hell for users having to create fifty accounts for each bubble. Aint nobody got time for that.

    i wish it remained a user’s option to block/unblock content they don’t/do want to see. Each instance could provide their “recommended” default list of enabled instances, and user can go and enable others, like how NSFW toggle works. Maybe group instances into categories with tags or something, like “porn”, “memes”, “tankies”, “nazis”, “warez”, etc

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      We’re gonna need a Lemmy client that can log into multiple accounts at the same time and display a combined feed of allof those accounts…

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      The big issue with that. Is where the host instance is located.

      If Lennyworld is located somewhere piracy will get them shut down. Federatng a pirate instance is a bad idea.

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        Hosting is the legal issue. Linking to illegal content that somebody else is hosting is much harder to tackle legally, which is why isohunt was around for so long despite being based in the US. IIRC they shut down not because they lost any lawsuits but because they just couldn’t afford the legal battle.

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      I think with the principles Lemmy was made under the fracturing of the community into blocs is basically inevitable. You’ll have the original/developer/“tankie” bloc at lemmy.ml, the more mainstream/liberal bloc at lemmy.world, and all the smaller instances orbiting around and between them some connected to both and some connected to neither.

      To do something like you suggest would require a single, centralized instance that lists all the others and tags them to allow users to pick which ones to subscribe to - and if the Lemmy devs did that then we’d be right back to the problems inherent to reddit-logo.

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      So long as major instances continue to rely on blacklists rather than whitelists, that won’t be a problem for the hundreds of small instances.

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      The primary purpose of the defederation mechanism is not to block content from readers, it’s to prevent brigades. A big problem on Reddit is vote manipulation (not to mention shit stirrers showing up uninvited). On Reddit some mods would just ban everyone who ever posted in a subreddit (like T_D), defederation is essentially the same thing.

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          No it isn’t. You’ve got the whole Fediverse to choose from. That’s the whole fucking point.

          If you want every single decision to go your way, run your own instance. Otherwise, quit moaning and find an instance that suits you.

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          Live in someone’s house, then follow their rules. Otherwise buy your own house or find another house.

          That’s what I associate lemmy instances with. Anyways I’m glad that we are free to choose where we maintain our accounts. Unlike reddit wher we cannot even move in order to change the environment, cause it’s all under one management.

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        It’s for the person paying for the hosting and maintaining the server to decide what they want their server to do

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      You can discuss and promote piracy, but lemmy.world is the biggest instance so hosting links up pirated content will get them shut down. The post is 100% right, just make multiple accounts. You want the illegal stuff distributed. What’s great about Lemmy is you can still have other accounts on those networks.

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      Most people will not put their time and energy into running an instance which is destined to become a fascist playground with policies like those. You might not like it but in this real world that we are all forced to live in, that is what those policies lead to.