I just noticed that one of the news communities here discourage the use of least biased/centrist news sources and I saw some people who put that they hate centrists in their bios.

All is that is kind of weird to me and does not make sense, as I thought that all sides should encourage ideas from centrists and least biased sources.

Is there is something that I miss here?

  • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    62·
    4 months ago

    Three things are happening:

    1. It is easier to dismiss someone’s argument outright if you can put them in a box without needing to engage with anything they’re saying
    2. Historically and particularly in the 1990s, Democrats were sort of corporate dogshit, so a lot of the left got used to opposing them (often bringing up MLK’s “white moderates” speech)
    3. There are a lot of shills on Lemmy who really want Trump to get elected, and do it by attacking the Democrats “from the left” with various dishonest talking points, and if you point out that any of what they’re saying is objectively false, they will call you a centrist as a way of dismissing you (see point #1)

    The center isn’t automatically right (often in the American political spectrum it works out as the average of killing all the immgrants and free school lunch, which is not a happy central point to reach). But also, simply applying a label to someone and dismissing them doesn’t automatically mean you’re right either, no matter how popular it may be.

    • HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee
      5·
      4 months ago
      1. Agreed. People do put others into boxes, and dismiss them.
      2. Not historically and especially in the 90’s, but also currently. The dems are absolutely still corporate dogshit.
      3. Speaking of putting people in boxes, everyone criticizing from the left is a secret trump supporter, and lying about their values.
      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        11·
        4 months ago

        The dems are absolutely still corporate dogshit.

        Most of them, yes. Hey, quick question, what’s happened to corporate taxes, and working-class wages adjusted for inflation, over the last 4 years? How has the NLRB’s role in economic life changed, and what have the results been?

        Speaking of putting people in boxes, everyone criticizing from the left is a secret trump supporter, and lying about their values.

        Not everyone, no. The people raising objectively false criticism of the Democrats and occasionally accidentally saying “Democrat Party” or saying they make $400k a year and as a good communist, their big concern about the Democrats is that they’re raising taxes and all you other communists should definitely feel the same way and stop supporting them – those guys are secret Trump supporters, yes.

        If you want to invest the time, read the whole thread and then come back and tell me that that person isn’t (1) clearly lying, in a particularly hamfisted fashion, about why they don’t want you to support the Democrats (2) not from the US or even familiar enough with it to be aware of how common or uncommon a $400k/yr salary is.