• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Leftists have no solutions on Gaza. They just make noise. “Don’t vote for anyone who can win and change things” isn’t a solution and anyone who isn’t a child understands that .

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      4 months ago

      Depends on where the Leftists are. If you’re strictly referring to America, then the Leftist stance is that both the DNC and GOP are aligned on their undying loyalty to Israel as a tool of Imperialism, and therefore neither option presents a pro-Gaza path. Instead, building up revolutionary pressure by supporting anti-Imperialist movements worldwide and organizing domestically outside the bounds of bourgeois electoralism builds pressure. This pressure can be levied against the ruling parties.

      Your “solution” is to sacrifice Gaza.

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        There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party. However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.

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          There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party.

          This is vibes-based. The DNC will not cease support for Israel because the US State needs it for its Imperialist ambitions.

          However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.

          Why do you believe organizing and building outside pressure has zero chance of success? Why do you think the DNC will magically work against their material interests?

          Feel free to come back and apologize when I end up being correct and the DNC never ceases support for Israel without outside pressure and risk of system destabilization.