• BB69@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Oh this is about Israel. I thought it was about Ukraine and I was very confused

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      11 months ago

      i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.

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        11 months ago

        Well, I mean, Hamas is funded by Iran. Iran and Russia are good buddies. So…

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        11 months ago

        It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they’d probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday or some shit

        Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious

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        11 months ago

        An FSB time traveler going into the past several decades to start kicking Palestinians out of their homes and restricting their general access.

        Whoa dude Russia could be behind ALL CRIME EVER IN HISTORY

        Got any more big brain takes to share?

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          11 months ago

          I don’t know how making an almost pedestrian (in international relations terms) idea sound incredulous and fantastical is supposed to refute that idea, but it certainly makes you come across as, shall we say, suspiciously out of touch.

          “oh right, and you’re just going to beam me that message over the “airwaves” like some kind of “electronic mail”? Haha try pulling the other one, it has bells on.”

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            11 months ago

            Well gosh I wouldn’t want to come across as pedestrian. That’s clearly your turf, so humbly excuse any perceived intrusion.

            A terminally online existence sure makes for some USDA choice paranoia.

            Blink twice if the time travelling Russians are in your room.

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              11 months ago

              When you set up the false premise that Russia would have had to have planned this long ago, as opposed to the stultifyingly obvious possibility that they are simply stoking and taking advantage of a decades-long situation, then of course this seems like tinfoil hat territory.

              But if you do choose to occupy the same reality as the rest of us (even just for a few brief moments) wherein Israel and Palestine have been at odds since Israel was dropped in Palestine, and wherein Russia has a long history (like most other superpowers, my home country included) of meddling in the affairs of other countries to their own strategic advantage, then, well, this all seems pretty straightforward.

              But you aren’t engaging with my actual words before lazily dismissing me as “terminally online” (whatever you think that means), and I’m not sure you’re even reading them. Case in point - you are reacting as if I’m calling you pedestrian, when I’m clearly calling the concept of one nation meddling in the affairs of another nation almost pedestrian.

              But I’m done wasting words on someone who doesn’t know what to do with them - or who intentionally misuses them. Good night.

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                  11 months ago

                  My advice would be read more. Not for explicit knowledge, but for refinement of your overall verbal model. Fiction is best. Why not read all the Stephen King books? He’s written like 50 and they’re fun.

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          11 months ago

          That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.

          Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.

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            11 months ago

            R O F L

            ITT: People who know nothing about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russia providing Palestine with aid.

            Crack a book ya’ll

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              11 months ago

              Prove to us that you learned something from that book.

              In your own words, what is it about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russian aid to Palestine, that would alter people’s opinions in this context if they knew it?