• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    He absolutely is more so. Also, young people have more power to influence Biden because they are part of his coalition. Of course, using this power is tricky because you need to pressure and criticize Biden without actually making him lose. So far I support the pressure campaign but I hope as the election gets closer people will start to realize what an epic disaster Trump term two would be.

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      Are young people really a part of Bidens coalition? Bidens policies and rhetoric have consistantly pushed young people away. The ridiculous speech he gave just a few minutes ago maligning student protestors is emblematic of this.

      And it seems like young people have got the message. The last poll I saw had 18-24yr olds voting for Trump at +8%

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        8 months ago

        Young people are part of the coalition but they’ve never proven to be a reliable part. When the 18-25s vote like the older generations then campaigns will start to take their needs more seriously.

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            It’s a two way street. Young progressives don’t see any reason to vote for Democrats who won’t fight for any of the policies they care about, so they wont defend or fight for those officials.

            If i am thirsty and someone is offering me toilet water after they just shit in the toilet, I don’t need to show gratitude to the next person who comes by offering water from their toilet after they pissed in it.

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              8 months ago

              Your analogy is completely absurd though, it’s more like voting for cake and getting bread - and then being so pissed off about the bread that you let bread guy get voted out in favor of toilet guy.

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                Hold it!

                Let me make sure I’ve got that right. In this analogy, a candidate supporting genocide is a perfectly fine option, and people who have a problem with him are comparable to picky eaters?

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                  8 months ago

                  Trump would probably be just fine with nuking Palestine so consider that when you think about what’s the shit and what’s the bread.

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                    objection

                    Irrelevant. Answer the question please: is supporting the genocide of Palestinians comparable to “bread” in this analogy? Do you consider the genocide of Palestinians to be a perfectly acceptable outcome? Do you think people who aren’t satisfied with a candidate who supports genocide are comparable to picky eaters?

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      8 months ago

      “because you need to pressure and criticize Biden without actually making him lose”

      “We need to be toothless about our criticism of Biden” FTFY

      The threat of making your candidate lose is the only power you have to shift them.

      Next time you’re negotiating for a car, see how much the seller budges after you preceed negotiations with “Now, I am fully committed and happy paying sticker price, but how much can you lower the price?”

      Edit: at least have the intellectual honesty to say out loud that Biden could do anything, and you’d still vote for him