• ReputedlyDeplorable@lemmy.worldEnglish
    132·
    9 months ago

    Yeah GRRM thinks too much of his characters, he wrote a match between Jaime Lannister and Rand Al’thor, and Jaime won. Absolutely ridiculous a guy who can wield magic that can burn people out of time vs a guy with a sword.

  • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    85·
    9 months ago

    So one Question I’m always asked. Who would win in a fight? Who would win in a fight if Galactus fought The Hulk, or if Thor fought Iron Man? And there’s one answer to all of that. It’s so simple, anyone should know this. The person who’d win in a fight is the person that the scriptwriter wants to win!

    -Stan Lee

  • rustyfish@lemmy.worldEnglish
    812·
    9 months ago

    I think GRRM would declare Ser Pounce the winner in a match against Kratos.

    I freaking love ASOIAF, but this guy talks way too much crap sometimes.

    • BleatingZombie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      9 months ago

      I haven’t read the books, but it seems like a theme is that everyone is extremely “human”. Like no one in the series could miraculously survive a fall of a cliff. That’s why I like the show, but I think it would pretty immediately discount anyone from being able to win a fight against a pseudo-superhuman who was able to, almost literally, walk off the damage from falling off a cliff

      • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        8·
        9 months ago

        everyone is extremely “human”. Like no one in the series could miraculously survive…

        Some Targaryens are fireproof (e.g., Dany), some people can’t seem to be able to get the hang of staying dead no matter how much they’re literally killed (e.g. Beric Dondarrion, Lady Stoneheart, wights, if you consider them people, Ser Robert Strong)… plenty of the supernatural going on in those books.

        • pmk@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          5·
          9 months ago

          Dany isn’t categorically fire-proof in the books. She survived a one time special event, with the help of the ululating chant and some kind of magic. But after that, she could be hurt by fire.

        • nickiwest@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          9 months ago

          For me, everything that happens on HBO after Jon is stabbed by his brothers is just high-end fanfic. I will always believe that the showrunners fucked up the ending. And, let’s be real, GRRM isn’t going to prove me wrong.

          • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
            5·
            9 months ago

            They might have rushed it but I’m pretty certain the big plot points are the same. They’d always claimed they had the broad strokes ending from Season 1.

            The one thing I could have seen him do was not bring Jon back but it honestly doesn’t change that much

  • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    613·
    9 months ago

    >fights off 5 ringwraiths while protecting a gang of hobbits
    >kills like a hundred magically engineered supersoldiers so hobbits can cross a river
    >kills an unreasonable number more at Helm’s Deep
    >beats up an actual ghost
    >just one of those supersoldiers could easily kill like 10 regular humans, but here he is again just mowing them down
    >charges the entirety of mordor on foot: survives

    But yeah, I’m sure the regular human of above average skill will be fine.

    • TransplantedSconie@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      9 months ago

      beats up an actual ghost

      This one made me giggle a bit and honestly was the first thing I thought of when I saw the post about this.

      Fucker throttled a ghost oath bound to defend his lineage to prove who he was and that he wasn’t a bitch. Said ghost and his minions, then went forth and literally ate orks and Mûmakil alike slaughtering everything in their path.

      • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, when your sister keeps your cojones in her purse, you start off the cage match at a big disadvantage. He hates himself and believes in nothing.

  • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
    56·
    9 months ago

    What I always found weird about this, is that even in universe Martin makes a point that Jamie wasn’t as good as he thought he was. He ends up being humbled.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.eeEnglish
    221·
    9 months ago

    Gg, Im the perfect amount of drunk to actually very literally lol at this. Am I embraced by this. Perhaps.

    But do I imagine Aragorn wondering where that -0hp damage is coming from? Perhaps.

  • arymandias@feddit.deEnglish
    3012·
    9 months ago

    It is a stupid question to begin with, and it was classy from George to give a straightforward answer, and maybe it would have been more classy to say that Aragorn would have won.

    But I don’t understand this antipathy towards George, he wrote some great groundbreaking fantasy novels just as Tolkien, and I’m happy I was able to enjoy both.

    • exocrinous@startrek.websiteEnglish
      92·
      9 months ago

      I tried to read A Game Of Thrones and it was so boring. It didn’t stay with one character long enough for me to get invested in their story. Too many characters, and not enough writing skill to pull that number off.

      I think George should have written a few simpler novels to practice good writing before he went and did a big project like this.

      • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        61·
        9 months ago

        I think George should have written a few simpler novels to practice good writing before he went and did a big project like this.

        Guy’s been writing professionally since 1970; his first full length novel was punished in 1976; he had been awarded two Hugo awards, six Locus awards, two Nebula awards, a Bram Stoker award, a World Fantasy award, and a couple Emmys before he even published A Game of Thrones.

        Him having no experience writing shorter works is extremely evidently not the problem.

        Him not having written something on the scale of A Song of Ice and Fire before, and writing himself into a gordian knot of plotlines and characters his aged brain might not be able to untangle, on the other hand, might.

        Or he simply lost interest and would rather write about gridiron in his not a blog. 🤷‍♂️

          • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
            31·
            9 months ago

            he had been awarded two Hugo awards, six Locus awards, two Nebula awards, a Bram Stoker award, a World Fantasy award, and a couple Emmys before he even published A Game of Thrones.

            Oh, well then I guess he’s just not very good

            🤦‍♂️

      • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        I read the first book back in the 00s. This was just before everyone was making these epic, high production TV series. Even so, my first thought was, this would do well as an HBO/Showtime/cable series. My second thought was, I’m not going to bother reading any of the other books. Too many characters that I not only didn’t like, but could keep track of. Having a different chapter for each character, and jumping back and forth, not for me.

  • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    194·
    9 months ago

    Yeah, this is where any semblance of respect for GRRM died for me.

    The show fucking sucked and his books aren’t even close to finished after decades so why bother even engaging with him at all? And he still has the audacity to try to repeatedly dunk on Tolkien the GOAT when he can’t even finish one story? FINISH YOUR FUCKING BOOKS, GEORGE, AND FINISH THEM WELL. Then we’ll see if you can talk a little shit. But we all know he won’t.

    • Gallahad_the_ger@lemmy.worldEnglish
      39·
      9 months ago

      No, not at all. Neither of them shared a parent. They’re technically cousins, but the amount of generations between Arwen’s uncle and Aragorn make the familial link not matter at all

      • Gabu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        It kind of does, though… From Aragorn’s perspective, at least

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        519·
        9 months ago

        Stepsister, Aragorn was raised in Rivendel and Elrond was closest to a father figure

        • Gallahad_the_ger@lemmy.worldEnglish
          123·
          9 months ago

          Raised by and adopted by are two different things. You can raise someone and not have them considered as your child. Not to mention the whole definition of a step sibling is sharing one parent, adoption doesn’t make you a step sibling

      • Gabu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        9 months ago

        Doesn’t change the fact they had the same (step)father, and Aragorn respected Elrond immensely. Also, pardon the Freudianism, but it’s kinda weird how the idealized finale to Béren and Luthien’s tale of love featured quasi-incest in Tolkien’s mind.