• я не из калининграда@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    cuba and korea are already democratic, as in the sense of true democracy, workplace democracy. liberal “democracy” is nothing more than a cover for the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and foreign imperialists. just look at cuba and korea under their respective american and japanese occupations. thats what the liberal west wants to return them to.

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      9 months ago

      Well “true” democracy is a rather open definition lol. With a minimalist definition enough even North Korea is a democracy based on them holding elections but I mean that is obviously not the case. Liberal democracy is just electoral democracy+ rule of law. You can have liberal democracy without capitalism and the bourgeoisie, just look at the Scandinavian countries before the neoliberalists took hold.

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          ? The current Nordic model is hardly socialist, just a welfare model. But in the 60’s it was on its way to eradicate the bourgeoisie and lift the under class in its entirety?

          Didn’t know it was a meme lol, what is it about?

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              9 months ago

              Sure it was. It diverted after the 70’s though. Any word in particular you think I don’t get the meaning of?

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            But in the 60’s it was on its way to eradicate the bourgeoisie and lift the under class in its entirety?

            No, it was just a welfare state back then too, they just had more concessions at the time because there was the Soviet Unions just next door with guarantied employment, free healthcare and housing, etc, and were getting so riled up over it that the bourgeoisie was getting really scared of potentially having a revolution and decided that temporarily giving these concessions was better than loosing everything.

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        9 months ago

        Sorry but Scandinavian countries were still capitalist and still had a bourgeois class even before the neoliberals came around.