"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.

Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."

Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.

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    I see no hope for this country. Things are just getting worse and worse every year, how long can this keep going?

    It’s pretty bad now, but I seriously worry what things will be like in 20 or so years.

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      Tories on a any% speed run to the government from Children of Men, while the left is worried about which way Kier decides to lean that afternoon

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        I lived in the UK not that long ago and I lived and live elsewhere in Europe.

        It really is a bigger problem in the UK than most of Europe, probably because it apes the US so hard and somehow combines some of its worst shit with their very own local shit (classism, very low social mobility, entrenched ancient elites, post-imperial hangover and other) rather than combining qualities.

        It’s mainly Anglon-Saxon countries that are speed running the rise of Fascism, not most of the World.

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      People hate on the US all the time, but the first amendment is very unique when you consider how other countries are curtailing people’s right to protest, practice their religion, etc.

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        An argument that might carry weight if you weren’t setting up hotlines for people to snitch on anything or anyone vaguely LGBTQIA+, removing books from libraries, allowing huge orgs to buy political favour, enslaving people in for-profit prison systems etc etc etc.

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          1. Kids shouldn’t be coerced into being gay.
          2. Yeah lobbying sucks I agree
          3. If people don’t want to have to work in prison then they shouldn’t commit crimes.
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            Kids aren’t being “coerced into being gay”. That’s a batshit statement right there.

            Also, slavery is always bad. End of story. Putting any leeway in there is disgusting.

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      Burka-ban has already been introduced in Austria. Didn’t really work because that was just before covid but they sure as shit tried.

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    So if someone doesn’t want to get sick for being in a huge crowd, they get arrested? Truly genius.

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    Hmm…I wonder which political spectrum the current government belongs to…

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          Exactly… (leaving both firmly on the right)

          Vote none, and start organising (in your work place, in your community, in your own home inspiring your kids). If you still can’t see that the system is designed by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful, you’re not paying any real attention (precisely why the media keeps society constantly looking at anything but how things are really run).

          We need to abolish the establishments keeping us down, not continue to play their game by their rules and wonder why things never change…

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            I hate kier but not voting for Labour would be stupid, protest votes or non votes don’t count any the only people pushing that idiocy are the rich right wing because they don’t want you to vote against them

            Everyone just thinks ‘oh look these people are too dumb, busy, or disconnected to vote oh well’

            You can still resist and work against a system you voted for,

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      Whatever gets them votes. Actual conservatives would at least pretend to care about the economy.

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        Why? Conservatism is about preserving traditional values and traditional power structures not the economy.

        If you actually care about the economy that means you care about progressing a more effective and efficient state for the benefit of the people. Afraid that makes you a progressive which the conservatives assure us they aren’t.

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          Conservatism is about preserving the status quo. (As opposed to reactionaries that want to restore the status quo ante)

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          Well if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.

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            What “traditional values” are you talking about?

            We’re a nation of migrants; you don’t get to rewrite history because it makes you mad.

            The first immigration law passed in this country was a process for naturalization; it doesn’t get more traditional than that.

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    They need the facial recognition software to do it’s thing so they can make sure life gets difficult for anyone conscious of their actions.

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    Fake beards, wigs , sunglasses and presumably face paint should be ok

    Stay safe protestors. Leave id and phone at home, don’t hold anything that could be interpreted as a weapon, and carry a “your rights” card to help you remember what to do if the police try to take away your freedom.

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      It looks like this would apply to any item used to conceal one’s identity. So, it’s possible that all of those things could be included.

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    Man its like the UK is an authoritarian shit hole or something. Y’all need weapons and resistance. And no, I’m not American before someone asks.

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    Is the UK turning into a dictatorship or an undeveloped country ? How is independent press doing over there ?

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      More like fascist-adjacent. And we started the process of underdeveloping ourselves when the fascist-adjacent leaders persuaded the terminally ignorant that Brexit would be great when it was obvious it was going to lead exactly where it is leading right now.

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          I guess it’s better than the UK for now, and there have been no attempted fascist coups for quite a few decades now. Even if we’re totally glass-half-empty, the EU is at least slamming on the brakes on the descent, while the UK is tearing their brakes off, and the US is deliberating whether using the brakes would hurt rich people.