On every thread or post, if you click on more and activity, you’ll get the info.

I personally find this to be a good things, I’ve seen people using downvote way too easily. I like the idea that we need to be somehow accountable for those mechanism.

edit: It could be somehow improved to have an option to let this info only available between concerned users.

edit edit: I think that up/downvote info shouldn’t be public, but kept private between the users involved. we need to address this privacy issue.

  • aroom@kbin.socialOP
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    I totally agree, but I find it refreshing to make people accountable. Maybe there is a solution to keep it somehow private between users?

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      I still don’t really understand what your dissatisfied with. You said something about people downvoting too much? Say you see someone who is downvoting in a way you don’t like. What is your recourse? Why do you want that information?

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        2 years ago

        If I see someone downvoting all my thread or post, I’ll block them. Anonymity is not always bringing the best out of people.

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          People are allowed to disagree with things, although I understand if someone is just spamming the entirety of a thread with downvotes for no appreciable reason.
          I’m in agreement with @eatmoregreenfood, that displaying your votes should be opt in, if available on the front end at all.
          On a social basis, I don’t think it matters; Whilst it would be preferable that someone explains why they disagree with something (assuming it is actually a disagreement, and not just malicious), I don’t think anyone should be fearful of downvoting because the OP might call them out on it and expect them to explain, or forever see nothing from that user again. Disagreement isn’t inherently negative.

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            I’m sorry but we talked about silly things being posted in an other thread, we exchanged our point of view and at the end, you literally downvoted all of my silly intervention in the thread. so you do you but that is exactly this kind of behaviour I’m not looking forward here.

            you could also argue that it would be a shame that anyone feels fearful to post because of people downvoting whatever it not pleasing them.

            for me downvoting is a strong statement, not to be taken lightly. it can be part of building an very unwelcoming environment and also shaping the discours of users in only one direction.

            please let’s try to take what’s the best of the fediverse here as well, be kind with each other if not excellent.

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              Myself, and a handful of users by the looks of it, disagreed with the content of some of your posts, or thought it wasn’t relevant / contributing to the discussion. I certainly didn’t downvote the entirety of your contribution to that thread, and I don’t intend for you to think it’s a personal attack.

              If you’d like to have a discourse on why I downvoted 4 of your comments, I, like many others aren’t looking for the ‘redditification’ of another site, regardless of how similar the premise might be, and that’s what I felt those comments were promoting, particularly ‘gesundheit’. I understand wanting things to be ‘just as good as they were’, etc., but this is new, things can be better, and I personally don’t want to see the site become reddit 2.0 just because there’s been a big influx of users after the blackout started. You’re entitled to want kbin.social to become something else, of course, and that’s arguably what the voting system is there for.

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                you shouldn’t assume that much about my intention tho. and I rather talk to you and argue that being told to “shut if up”, even tho you didn’t say it, it’s how a downvote feels.

                I certainly don’t want kbin to be a reddit 2.0. but id like people to feel free to express themself in all matter, not only being serious. We don’t have to agree about that, it’s ok. But one thing that I really wish would stay on reddit is this downvote culture.

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                  I understand what you’re saying, but at the time, would you have rather I replied to each of the comments with ‘I disagree’, ‘I don’t like this’, etc? That’s just opening things up for unnecessary arguments that end up taking over a whole thread, which is sort of what’s happening now.

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                    well taking up the whole thread is not an issue or is it? I quite enjoy talking with you to be honnest.

                    but your right, I understand that you don’t want to reply to all my silly post. but I’m my book, you could have just ignored them and do nothing.

                    that’s what I do when I see something that I don’t agree with or don’t like. either reply or ignore. I’ll downvote only at the last recourse.

                    but I understand that we don’t share the same value as what downvoting mean, and I’m ok with that. I just wish that this place will be build on the fediverse values from now on.

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                    2 years ago

                    of course. but it’s not mandatory to use them lightly.

                    for me it’s a really powerful statement.

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              And your post is currently up to 17 downvotes. Seems like people pretty much proved the point you were making. I think that is kinda sad, but not entirely unpredictable. I’m still new here. I used reddit, sometimes I really liked it. But it wasn’t perfect. I see this as a chance to improve. If we want to. I agree with what you said, I don’t very often downvote. We will see what happens.