And here I was being told that Russia was just dropping by a couple of separatist regions by invitation and wasn’t going to invade. I’m getting ready for those goalposts to move like lightning. Oh no, that’s not imperialist bullying, merely a light shelling.
Nothing says “protecting civilians” like a little shelling
There has been no shelling of civilian targets.
On what basis do you make that claim?
Just a little different way than how you support the thin air claim of citizen bombing. It is called citation of facts.
There is still no invasion into Ukraine. Fake news.
Literally within 3 hours of your comment.
A lot of these videos have been fact checked as false and out of context
I mean, even twitter had this thing to debunk false claims
https://twitter.com/i/events/1496815373936574469
Not saying that Russians aren’t in Ukraine right now, they could very well be, but I object strongly to people jumping to conclusions about a full scale invasion, when it looks like the real narrative is Russia has done a one off attack for political leverage.
You are from lemmygrad, so I assume you trust China at least somewhat. This was China’s stance.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-calls-restraint-ukraine-rejects-term-invasion-2022-02-24/
I wanted to post it, but lemmy wouldn’t do it for some reasonThanks for posting the link. I know that footage from other conflicts from different times are often circulated inappropriately and are used for misinformation. You’re correct in saying that I don’t know for certain whether or not any particular source is genuine.
I am from Lemmygrad, and had not seen this exact response from China, however I don’t necessarily need to agree with everything the Chinese government says. In 1979 they didn’t like calling their own invasion of Vietnam an invasion, instead opting in favour of the term “the self-defensive counterattack against Vietnam”.
I found a link to a similar article except it’s from an Indian media outlet and you don’t need to register an account to read the whole thing. Leaving this in case anyone is interested.
Did you mean to write a blank comment?
I was replying to someone else and mistakenly end up replying you. Is that a fair explanation for 3 downvotes on a blank comment?
I still think that the underlying problem is purely a collapsing economic system. This has always been the case in the capitalist system when, due to some crisis, the speculative bubble burst, always in the quest for infinite growth. This situation always ended with a war, for which any pretext was used, to make a reset, especially by imperialist countries whose largest investments are in the military and weapons field. Destroyed countries with a reduced population are always a huge deal with reconstruction, to start this cycle of infinite growth again. It’s that simple. All of the current neo-liberal governments should be hanged by the balls to do justice to the people who, as always, pay for these excesses with misery and suffering.
The fact that Ukraine was falling apart all on its own was why I didn’t see the logic in Russia actually invading. They could’ve just sat there and waited for more regions to separate.
They could’ve just sat there and waited for more regions to separate.
Perhaps Putin knows something the rest of us don’t.
Like, I dunno… that more regions didn’t want to separate, and any pretense to the contrary was purely through his own meddling?
Or perhaps he knows that most regions will either support or not resist Russia?
Russia was not going to wait for the Ukronazi offensive, but decided to attack first. Now its time to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. No clear confirmation of a Russian ground invasion, the attack was carried out with artillery and air strikes on military targets (and very effectively).
Is this just the Cliffnotes of a Putin speech?
