so we all know I’m not the most politically correct person so don’t take this offensively

Definitely a circa 2010 moment lmfao the bigot equivalent of “hold my beer.”

Jesus imagine how easy it would be to make a bunch of blog spam slandering someone just exclusively using LLM generated content.

A lot of people really have a hard time parsing what they’re buying with digital products and I think it’s unfair to expect them to compete with international mega corporations that love to surprise folks with gated featured/subscriptions as you go “caveat emptor.”

That’s an absurd interpretation of what I said. There is no way you actually think that’s what said.

If you spend your entire time and get all your information on lemmy then you have a bigger issue beyond some echo chamber internet communities. Really and truly.

Demonizing spaces for like minded people to congregate doesn’t solve that.

Ad blocking is security so no.

You’re mischaracterizing this pretty flagrantly.

I hesitate to harp on it too much because it’s borderline semantics, but again, I just think it’s good for people to know that it’s not just babies that are at risk. Until a kid can get themselves out of a car on their own comfortably AND has the wherewithal to do so, it’s a risk.

22mo isn’t a baby or infant, which I only bring up because that’s always the case people envision but you need to really pay attention to this stuff even as your kids get older. It’s so fucking tragic when the stuff happens either way.

I can decide to block someone after they reveal more of themselves or otherwise turn nasty. You’re still reinforcing a false moral imperative. I am allowed to have communities and spaces that are primarily people I agree with. I don’t need everything to be challenging me all the time.

It’s unbelievable how any time somebody starts complaining about “echo chambers“ it’s basically an argument for how they are entitled to somebody else’s attention.

When you go out for drinks or dinner or some other social activity, do you always make sure to invite people with beliefs and practices that are diametrically opposed to your own? Do you not mostly keep friends in your orbit who largely agree with you and your values?

I have family I don’t agree with. I have colleagues I don’t agree with. Yes, I also have friends I don’t agree with. But these echo chamber arguments are almost exclusively used by the right to say “you have to listen to me because it’s a moral imperative” then whenever someone like me tries to show them the door, they scream about echo chambers as if they aren’t the problem.

No, we don’t have to keep these people around. I don’t have to listen to every opinion or argument that I disagree with every single time. Sometimes I’m just going to tell people to fuck off and hang out with people who aren’t actively trying to upset me.

bidey-bro

You’re trying too hard

the dems failed to pass any meaningful legislation

Yeah those tens of millions of people utilizing the ACA sure don’t count. I guess the infrastructure bill didn’t happen, I’ll go tell my city to return the funding it’s using right now to repair roads and sewerage issues that have long been neglected until that money came.

I mean seriously? Nothing meaningful? Let’s just skip the part where you give me some dross about how the ACA was Republican due to compromise blah blah blah we all know but it wouldn’t exist at all without Obama and the democrats expending an enormous amount of political capital. Like it or not, to not call it meaningful is ridiculous.

Contact Senator Ron Wyden - he’s doing good work on this front. Show him some support

Well you’re about to re-enter that dystopian nightmare because Vivaldi is a chromium browser and is moving over to manifest v3, meaning ublock origin will no longer work. Shift over to Firefox my friend

I already said: upvotes only, remove downvotes, votes are public. If we don’t have downvotes public voting is not as important. But if we insist on keeping them, then yes it should be public

We also need people to be more accepting of stricter/heavier-handed moderation, which is a hard sell.

If users are the problem and the platform encourages/enables them to behave like that, then the problem is the platform. Redditors act that way because the system incentivizes it.

“Echo chambers” are incredibly common in our daily lives. I even really don’t get the whole “anti-echo chamber” thing. We select people to be friends we generally like and agree with. We often don’t associate with people we don’t like or disagree with. Why should social media be some totally egalitarian social exposure? That’s literally never been the case ever. We read what we want to read. We talk to who we want to talk to. I’m not going to be shamed into listening to some jerk who thinks gay people shouldn’t marry and belong in hell or whatever. I don’t want to share a beer with them, I would never invite them to dinner in my home, so why should I have to deal with them living rent free in my mind because I saw some ignorant post on social media yet again?

It’s not like I don’t know homophobia exists, so I definitely don’t need their particular brand of reminder and I know I shouldn’t engage them because it’s a pointless flame war.

I have plenty of work colleagues and family I disagree with, I read sources I don’t always love. I get plenty of exposure to other ways of thinking and ideas. Do I think people can go too far and literally only surround themselves with “yes men” socially? Sure. But come on. How many of us actually spend equal time with people we both agree and disagree ideologically with? To be perfectly frank: the “echo chamber” argument is mostly just a cudgel used by the right to obliquely say a space is too liberal for their tastes. It’s not a moral imperative and they are demanding everyone else conform better to their ideals while also saying it’s immoral to leave.

Then block them. You think this is suddenly going to be a daily occurrence or something?

What tools are we giving them? If anything downvotes are a tool they abuse already. May as well take it away