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  • It’s an unpopular opinion here, but I truly think Meta joining is being a little blown out of proportion.

    The fediverse is simply not valuable enough to EEE. We’re a tiny niche of nerds who all have ublock installed. Meta wants a low effort solution to eat Twitters lunch, and saw bluesky do well.

    We could even see this as an opportunity to grow. You can join mastodon AND find famous people to follow. Thread users themselves may realize the moderation sucks and go elsewhere.

    Defedrating at best makes Threads roll back their activitypub use…and their millions of users are in a walled garden again. We did it fedi!



  • By extension, this is why I don’t think defederating with Meta is an effective strategy. Like gourmet burger restaurants refusing to be on the same block as McDonalds.

    Meta will get the big names as they exit Twitter, and become borderline necessary to federate with-- assuming updates from years of state, artists, activists, etc are of any interest to people considering your instance.

    This is inevitable. I think the only discussion is how we have a vibrant enough community that EEE becomes less viable.

    It’s something we failed to do with email. I suspect the answer is approximate to far easier instance hosting, to increase the number of instances and make a federation whitelist unviable for Meta







  • I’m not sure blocking Meta is worthwhile in the long term. Say what you will about email, you still have some degree of choice over your host. I want better for the fediverse, but that’s still a marked improvement over mainstream social media.

    In the short term, Meta wants to kill Twitter by collecting all its A-level users. I think this would be good for the fediverse, these are news outlets and poltiicians and etc making posts most people want the option to see in their feed. These are also users who want no-fuss platforms with some amount of “customer service”, and mastodon.social is simply not ready to provide that.

    The issues it poses to re-centralization are an inevitable threat as the Fediverse grows. Unless there is a concrete plan to build protections and this is a stop-gap effort, I’m not yet convinced it’s worthwhile.


  • It’s really an issue with how the fediverse handles communities. On Reddit each sub had its own moderation/governance structure which I think fits the role of an “instance” best. Here, each instance has a variety of communities which may overlap with other instance.

    I.e. banning an instance for having community X impacts community Z who may also dislike X.

    Without ripping up the floorboards, I suspect the answer is instances having community-level granularity in blocking. So one can block: The_Donald@*, *@sh.itjust.works, or most narrowly [email protected]