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  • I think the bit of context here that is lacking is why she felt the need to drop to the floor in the first place. Was she hurt? Dizzy? Pain medication kick in? Did he point his gun at her and she reflexively dropped? The pot didn’t go with her; it was still on the sink. From the cops’ vantage point he would’ve likely seen that.

    Beyond that, she’s the victim. Granted, police should use due diligence when responding to calls, but taking the stance that anyone is an adversary leads to guns being drawn and people being beaten waaay too early in the interaction and with little provocation. Suspicion of all leads to paranoid responses, and we see the fruits of that in this and other encounters.

    I’f be curious to know which you see as being more important here - the cops’ life or the civilians? Just trying to understand the frame of reference.


  • I think you’re overstating the threat here. The above commenter, though being facetious, is making a good point. The cop told her to take her pasta off the stove and even joked with her about avoiding the steam. Then he shot her. She was standing at a sink behind a raised-bar style countertop with a pot of water. Assuming she’s going to be able to chuck it over the counter at the cop is a bit of a stretch, particularly given her demeanor throughout the encounter. Nevermind the fact that she’s standing there with two armed men that could easily kill her (and one did), it’s bonkers to assume she would have both the motive and capability to do so.

    It’s one thing if she behaved erratically to that point, but she didn’t. Additionally, if the cop was really concerned about the pot he could have said, “no, stay on the couch.” It’s just an odd hill to die on stating the cop was concerned about the pot.