They fully deserved to be invaded by the Soviets.
They had a fascist regime indeed. Don’t go crying about the consequences of their own actions.
And you only believe in democracy when it turns out how you want?
Looks like fake democracy to me if they let them participate and then ban them AFTER they win.
It’s exactly what the US did when they held ‘democratic elections’ in Afghanistan.
The Taliban won despite all their meddling after which they annuled it and had to do it over again without them.

What will happen in other countries, let’s say if the horrible AfD win in Germany, are they going to ban them then?
Either you ban them before or honor the results.
But that would break the illusion of having a real democracy.
It’s clear only centrist results in the narrow overton window are tolerated.
And you think it was better for Georgia when they basically got a French president puppet or that corrupt one who had to flee to fascist ukraine where he had to flee again for doing the same?
They literally started a war with Russia.
And somehow the west doesn’t mind extreme right when they are against Russia.
They fully suported them in ukraine, turned out great for them didn’t it?

I was specifically talking about dbzer0 of which Viking_Hippie is a member.
If I go there I can not post or even comment.

Quit embarrassing yourself, go away

Jeez, what a load of garbage

LOL Maybe you should learn that Wikipedia is not a source and proven to be extremely biased and manipulated.
You don’t even know that.
And even that Wiki page doesn’t cite sources, something you need if you don’t want to be seen as just making shit up, which you clearly are.
You claim it’s in that pact, then go to the absolute source and show me where it is.

LOL are you really claiming it wouldn’t matter where you place nukes?
So the US was just being silly then when Russia wanted to put them in Cuba as retaliation for them putting them in Turkey?

Yawn, this again.
As I thought, pulled from your ass and the same cheap tricks they try to claim with this pact.
A non-aggression treaty is not “split Europe between them”

Wait I’ll return the favor:
Here is the deal between the nazis and their friends from England to split Europe between them.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1030005003

While it’s true both sides would use propaganda it looks like you’re turning around the facts.
It’s NATO that despite their promise has moved further east since the german reunification and are now right on the Russian border.
It’s Russia that should and do feel threathened.
The angst you feel is a result of more red scare/the Russians are coming propaganda.
If anything you should be scared of ‘our’ side risking war.
It’s about more than “very problematic Ukranian language laws”, they literally sent nazis to ethnic cleanse them and they burnt protesters alive in Odessa for protesting. and no that wasn’t before the Maidan coup.
Here are some western reports from before the 2022 war when they didn’t get too much attention in the press and before they started to claim Russia attacked ‘unprovoked’ and there certainly weren’t any fascists in Ukraine.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/07/16/ukrainian-far-right-extremists-receive-state-funds-to-teach-patriotism/ https://apimagesblog.com/blog/2018/11/12/training-kids-to-kill-at-ukrainian-nationalist-camp

Anyone who paid attention from 2014 or before would know what happened.
It’s very clear and despite being from the west with all its biased news I still know there is one clear guilty side.

OK I get it now, thanks

"They went in to Ukraine under the flag of denazification. "
You said that as if it wasn’t true and stopping the ethnic cleansing of the large Russian speaking population wasn’t valid enough reason in itself.
The other reason was demilitarisation.
Also a valid reason since NATO expansion right next to them, undoubtably with nukes, is an existential threat.
Russia gave them plenty of chances to prevent war but they didn’t listen.
Never intended to honor the Minsk accords, as Merkel admitted, and only used it to buid up their army.
It was the west that started this with their regime change coup and wanted this to happen.
A proxy to be used and then thrown away.
It is their usual MO.

“trust me bro”
The pinnacle of american intelligence and reasoning
Why don’t you go play some hand egg or stickball.
You have nothing of value to contribute.

Hi, unrelated question if you don’t mind.
I see you’re from dbzer0 which I want to join.
I’m quite new to the Fediverse and I’m confused.
You’re on lemmy.ml and can post/comment here.
When I go to dbzer0 I can’t.
Do I need to sign up and make a different account or link my .ml account somehow?
I suspect it’s possible since you use your @lemmy.dbzer0.com account here.
I don’t want to be banned for making an alt account.

If that’s a ‘fact’ it should be easy to prove right?
Or is it more likely you pulled it from your ass?

never happened.
That’s american ‘education’ for you, why am I not surprised?
Or is it your 420 influence?

Trauma? They honor their nazis there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQVVUL6iZA&t=10s

Same in the other Baltic countries.
And most of all Ukraine.
You can deny that all you want.

You’ll get it. Exactly like the WW2 playbook.
Europe, already suffering hard economically from the ukraine situation will have more austerity and poverty to buy more weapons.
This will create even more discontent and the final push to have them vote fascists into power (we’re almost there now in plenty countries).
Then we Europeans can all be sent to the Ostfront to fight the evil Russians again while the US sells us weapons and benefits.

Zionism and fascism have always been similar and allies.

“Germany’s foreign intelligence” LOL
And who wouldn’t trust the BBC mouthpiece?

I feel the same.
as long as their program is not against the law extreme right parties can take part everywhere else in Europe.

It is literally ‘power by the people’
Not ‘what others decide for the people.’
But lets be honest, it’s the not being hostile to Russia that did it.
Can’t have that in a US colony where they plan to have the biggest base for their imperialist wars.
And who helped the openly fascists ukranian to power in 2014?