Hells Angels are moving into my area for the first time. I have a generally negative view of them, but have some friends who feel otherwise. I would love to hear your experiences related to the Angels specifically, but “1%” clubs as well.
I have a very negative view of them.
I’ve been the victim of violence from a HA member, for no other reason than “he decided to sit down, extremely drunk and high, at our camp at a music festival”. After offering him a beer and having a chit chat, hoping he would lose interest, he decided to start groping a 16 year old. I was the unlucky person chosen to ask him to leave. That didn’t go very well.
Second, someone in my family unfortunately got mixed up in HA and received a prison sentence from dealing drugs. He has now escaped that environment but it left me in little doubt that there’s few “noble knights” in that group, only drug-dealing gang-members.
Thirdly the country I come from has witnessed multiple wars between immigrant gangs and HA, as well as between HA and Bandidos. At one point they were firing stolen anti-tank rockets into a building where the rival gang was having a party. It’s hard to have a great impression of someone who chooses to fire an AT-4 in through a building.
So yeah, HA no thanks.
Sweden right? Or Denmark if not so I guess.
I mean it’s not the same there as in the USA I GUESS at least.
in Europe?!
Living in France I had no idea what those HA are and thought it was an American thing
What do you mean it didn’t go well? You’re not being specific enough
It meant I got a couple of punches and as a scared 17-year being punched by a drunk Hells Angels member, I took it and did nothing.
No need to qualify that you “did nothing,” my friend. From what you described, you had the courage to stand up when drawing the short stick (because nothing made you follow through when you were “chosen”) and then you kept yourself and everyone else as safe as possible by not retaliating. Can you imagine how things might have escalated if you had?
You have my sincere respect for what you’ve described here.
In my last job we had a Hells Angels Supporter Clubhouse on our complex… well, we never had any problems with them, and our encounters mostly comprised of a “good morning” or something like that. Sometimes they held barbecues where i attended and, what can i say, just a bunch of more or less nice motorcycle riding greybeards.
My ex’s parents were in one. They’re some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met, so it just kinda confirmed to me that biker gangs are for terminally stupid people who think the vroom vroom sounds cool and that leather vests are badass.
The big clubs are all an organized crime syndicate. How bad the situation will be mostly depend on your exact location. Especially with the Hell’s Angels the involvement in organized crime depends a lot on the exact charter. Some just do illegal gambling, some light narcotics and gun trades while others are also involved in human trafficking and forced prostitution.
In most of the western world organized crime usually stays away from regular citizens. That’s why many people here say if you don’t approach them they will leave you be. But crime always affects regular people. And there is basically nothing you can do. It’s just up to luck whether you specifically get affected or not.
When the Hell’s Angels started to move into Europe most politicians just ignored it. But a war between locals clubs, the Hell’s Angles and then the Banditos (who also moved into Europe) broke out almost immediately. Some people even got killed. But politicians only stepped in when a civilian got killed or severely injured because some gang member shot a rocket into a rivaling gang’s bar. Then shit moved back into the shadows.
Given the area, I’m pretty sure they are aiming to take over the meth trade/transportation here.
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So as a biker you just assume other bikers will drive recklessly and warn each one about cops?
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A friend joined them to get protection because he got beaten a lot. He left again after his first drug trafficking job was offered to him. (and fortunately he was allowed to leave because he didn’t know enough yet)
My schoolmates rented a club house for parties and the bikers wanted to do the security themselves. The have beaten people and kicked one drunken guy lying on the floor who argued too much with them. Completely unprofessional.
This was late 2000s in rural Germany.
I’ve always wondered, in the colder regions of the world in winter, what do motorcycle gangs do?
I guess the answer is sell drugs and punch people?
Wear an extra layer?
You must not have experienced a Chicago/New York winter before
You should have a negative view of them. Just because they don’t personally fuck with you doesn’t mean they aren’t worth putting down.
I’ve had gang related people fuck with me. It sucks and at times made me want to kill myself and I still deal with that pretty much daily. I have PTSD. I know a lot of the people that fucked with me and now it feels like I live in the same town as my rapists* and I have to see the fucked up faces occasionally.
They are heartless and worthless.
Cops don’t care when I try to get help.
- Rapist is the best term I’ve found for them even though I wasn’t physically raped or anything. They are heartless.
They deserve to be fucked with… but don’t do it if you’re not ready for …basically war… burglary, robberies, identity theft…
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Oh, at least they got all that harmless weed and non-addictive hallucinogenics off the street… Waste of taxpayer money to fuck with that.
