More than 100 Harvard researchers received termination notices for federally funded research projects on Thursday, as sweeping cuts to the majority of Harvard’s federal grants begin taking effect across the University’s labs.

The notices, delivered via email from Harvard’s Grants Management Application Suite, informed recipients that their projects had been terminated “per notice from the federal funding agency” and contained a list of terminated grants.

“You are receiving this e-mail because one (or more) of your projects have been terminated,” the emails read.

Harvard Assistant Vice President for Sponsored Programs Kelly Morrison and Chief Research Compliance Officer Ara Tahmassian had warned the researchers in a separate Wednesday email that the majority of Harvard’s awards from federal agencies were terminated.

“The University has received letters from most federal agencies indicating that the majority of our active, direct federal grants have been terminated,” they wrote to recipients.

Some of the terminated grants exceeded $1 million, funding entire research operations, including salaries for graduate students, postdoctoral fellows, and lab technicians.

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    Exactly the move you’d expect from the dumbest government in history… their strategy has the foresight of a bat with laryngitis

    US dominance on pretty much anything is over

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      I assure you they do not know the cost of everything. Example: DOGE didn’t look at cutting expenses in any of this most of expensive programs, like military spending and social security.

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    Harvard saying they wouldn’t comply with Trump and fight it in court was great.

    If they really wanted to do “The Right Thing”, they have the billions to keep these projects funded for several years while they fight. But I guess that’s too much to ask.

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      If they really wanted to do “The Right Thing”, they have the billions to keep these projects funded for several years while they fight.

      No, they don’t. Where do you think they could just magic up money?

      Edit:

      “They have an endowment!”

      What do you people think an endowment​ is? It’s not a rainy day slush fund. It’s thousands of individual funds that are invested which Harvard, and other schools, use to generate income. But it’s the investment that generates income. If they spend down the endowment then it’s gone and no more money for the future.

      Think of it like a savings account where you live off the interest generated. If you spend the savings, no more interest.

      Also - like 80% of that money must be spent in certain schools, types of research, supporting certain students, etc. They can’t legally use it for anything else.

      https://finance.harvard.edu/endowment

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          That’s not how it works though. They just can’t put that money to anything (same with other higher education). If the Gates Foundation provided them $1B for research of AI… it can only go to that. If they use it for something else, Harvard can get sued.

          Let’s not forget that the endowment tax is going up to as much as 18% (or higher) soon… once that big dumb bill gets passed.

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        The donations that people have made over the years, giving them the largest endowment in world history?

        It’s kinda like asking “how is Elon Musk going to pay for that?” I don’t know, how about with some of his money.

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            So, let me get this straight: are you claiming that Harvard can’t use ANY of its endowment to support research? So when you said “where will they get the money” and I said “from their endowment” and you said “you don’t know what an endowment is” you are saying that because you think none of their endowment can be used to support research? Is that right?

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                So, you gave me the link because you think their endowment can’t do what I said it should do, is that right?

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                  I’m saying the link describes what the endowment can do, its restrictions, and how the university uses it.

                  Why can’t Harvard use more of its endowment in order to cover additional expenses or reduce tuition costs?

                  Returns from the endowment foster leading financial aid programs, scientific research discoveries, and hundreds of professorships.

                  However, there is a common misconception that endowments, including Harvard’s, can be accessed like bank accounts, used for anything at any time as long as funds are available. In reality, Harvard’s flexibility in spending from the endowment is limited by the fact that it must be maintained in perpetuity and that it is largely restricted.

                  Endowment gifts are intended by their donors to benefit both current and future generations of students and scholars. As a result, Harvard is obligated to preserve the purchasing power of these gifts by spending only a small fraction of their value each year. Spending significantly more than that over time, for whatever reason, would privilege the present over the future in a manner inconsistent with an endowment’s fundamental purpose of maintaining intergenerational equity.

                  In addition, many donors also designate a specific purpose for which their fund can be spent. For Harvard, over 80 percent of endowed funds are subject to these restrictions. Contributions may be given in support of a specific School, program, or activity, and can only be used for those purposes.

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            You’re acting as if Harvard has no control over the way they utilize the endowment, and that’s just not true. Of course they want to manage it so that they are only drawing from a portion of the gains rather than actually spending it down. Of course some percentage of funds are earmarked for specific purposes like new buildings, endowed professorships, and the like.

            None of this means that Harvard cannot make the strategic decision to dip heavily into the endowment to maintain researchers’ livelihoods while their fight moves through the courts. Arguably it’s the fiscally-responsible thing to do, because many of the affected researchers are going to be losing work in progress that may have to be replicated if they are ever rehired, and some portion of those laid off are going to move on to other things, impacting Harvard’s research capacity and their reputation as a desirable, high-status employer in the sciences. One would have hoped that they picked this fight with the intention of winning it, and failing to tap the endowment as bridge funding while the legal challenges play out risks making it something of a Pyrrhic victory.

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              They’re not doing research for Harvard, they’re doing science research for the public which was competitively assessed and awarded.

              That’s how the US has chosen to fund science research for over 50 years. It was considered a public good and has easily been one of best public investments that we’ve made during the period.

              America has been at the pinnacle of science, medicine and education largely through this partnership with Universities. trump and company are pissing that legacy away in an effort to destroy higher education in the US, which they believe to be an impediment to them instituting authoritarian rule.

              They’re happy to loot the country and burn it to the ground so long as they can rule over the ashes.

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              You’re acting as if Harvard has no control over the way they utilize the endowment, and that’s just not true. Of course they want to manage it so that they are only drawing from a portion of the gains rather than actually spending it down. Of course some percentage of funds are earmarked for specific purposes like new buildings, endowed professorships, and the like.

              “Some percentage” is a gross understatement:

              "In addition, many donors also designate a specific purpose for which their fund can be spent. For Harvard, over 80 percent of endowed funds are subject to these restrictions. Contributions may be given in support of a specific School, program, or activity, and can only be used for those purposes. " (emphasis mine)

              None of this means that Harvard cannot make the strategic decision to dip heavily into the endowment to maintain researchers’ livelihoods while their fight moves through the courts. Arguably it’s the fiscally-responsible thing to do

              It would be financially ruinous to do so. That endowment spending would be gone. Just gone. You would get short-term payouts but you would fuck University funding for decades. And we’re talking core funding which can’t be paid back by the grants that would possibly be gotten in the future since those grants pay for the research. Even if they got the grants back that were cancelled it wouldn’t be able to re-supply the endowment.

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                Run the numbers. 20% of Harvard’s ~$53 billion endowment is more than $10 billion that they can spend, no strings attached. Harvard receives just shy of $500 million per year in NIH grants. They could fund the next four years of their scientific research completely out of pocket, and it would only cost 4% of the endowment, and leave the overwhelming majority of their unencumbered funds intact. Hell, 4% isn’t even half of the endowment’s growth rate last year — they could do this indefinitely to make a point and still grow the endowment. Is reducing their annual net profit by ~10% small beans? No, but it’s entirely doable and wouldn’t create any catastrophic impacts on the rest of the of the institution.

                For what it’s worth I am in regular contact with another R1 institution that previously received significantly more federal research grant funding than Harvard, with an endowment a fraction of the size. To my knowledge they’ve frozen new hiring and are planning to tighten their belts in terms of capital expenditure, but they have not moved to cut researchers yet. This feels like a short-sighted move on Harvard’s part, and I rather suspect that they’re taking the opportunity to cut perceived chaff more than anything else.

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                  Run the numbers. 20% of Harvard’s ~$53 billion endowment is more than $10 billion that they can spend, no strings attached.

                  Yes? But only once. What do they do next year when they need to fund the university?

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      already happening, doctors choose to stay in canada now, instead of a bougie position in ucla.

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        I’m not even done with medical school and I get targeted advertisements about how well British Columbia treats their doctors.

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          canada, and europe has good med school, its just the pay in us is better, and its difficult to be certified in the usa as a foreign doctor, unless your from one of the above countries.

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    Well, Europe welcomes them, their talents and their research. And it’s a stable place, which in any other circumstance would just be the bare minimum instead of an actual benefit.

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      I’m leaving a university in the US that’s not heavily reliant upon soft money (grants/donations), but we’re still losing research support in various ways to this crazy administration. I start at a school in Europe in the fall. I guess I’ll go teach and do engineering research there since the US isn’t really interested in having academia exist.

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        congrats on getting out, is yours a PHD/MS, or a bs? i only have a bs in CMB, since labs are notoriously hard on experience and research.

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      Very excited to watch as the US lags behind in research because basically anyone with more intelligence than President Cheeto left for Canada, Europe, Australia or New Zealand.

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        phds, mds are usually the first to leave once a govt trainsition into a full fascist state, they know they are the first argets. then they will start persecuting POCS, and lgbtq+, and enemies, and then thier own loyalists,. it is a matter of time before US military tech falls behind, if they expel too many scientists from the aeronautics, weapons industry, via the Universities they source them from.

        remember what happened to germany when most of thier jewish scientist had to flee, no atom bomb for them.

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          That’s exactly what happened in 2020 isn’t it? Trump wanted to stop Covid testing, because less testing meant fewer confirmed cases. Then thousands of people died every single day from uhh… something else.