Don’t bother choosing. Use whatever the distro gives you until you actually have a reason to switch
I use arch btw. My distro doesn’t give me anything. I was on x11. Wanted to experiment a bit and now I’m configuring hyprland. Going well for me so far
Wayland. No screen tearing and it doubled my battery life.
hmm interested in the battery life comment. is this a thing? if I could push an extra 20 minutes or so I’d switch
is this a thing?
Honestly, I have no clue. With DWM I had like 3-4 hrs at max and now I am using DWL for 6-8 hrs.
What is also noticeable, is that closing the lid puts the laptop actually into sleep. Because with DWM it continued using the battery as if it was actually used.
I am not advanced user enough to tell what exactly caused this.
Yes please go with details
No screen tearing out of the box is a huge plus for wayland. Makes recommending GNU/Linux much easier
Wayland all the way, 120 hz Freesync monitor with 60 hz second monitor works perfectly on KDE Plasma with AMD. No fussing about with X11 configs or worrying about if the compositor is active or not, it just works.
I’m not having any issue in XFCE on x11/xorg with a 164Hz main screen @2560x1400, and a 60Hz second screen set vertically @1080x1920. Just using the display manager config provided by XFCE.
I can’t seem to get Freesync working on KDE Wayland with a single monitor (NixOS with an AMD R9 380). Any tips? I’m using vrrTest to test, and my TV reports when Freesync is enabled.
Are you using HDMI? Try display port. (Its an old post but maybe related) https://www.reddit.com/r/swaywm/comments/w3ug4q/enabling_amds_freesync_on_sway/
Yeah. My TV is HDMI-only and doesn’t have any DP inputs.
The open source amd driver doesn’t support freesync with HDMI afaik
Both have issues, just that X11 has old issues that rarely someone is workin on, while Wayland has new ones and people are fixing them. So Wayland for me, thank you.
Wayland for better multimonitor support, scaling, and tear-free rendering.
Wayland if possible because it generally performes better and is actively maintained. Xorg if Wayland doesn’t support your system yet.
X11 for X11Forwarding over SSH.
Wayland because I want something actively maintained and progressive.
I don’t think that’s a feature many people actually needed, something like accessability is peobably a better argument but I agree with the fundamental statment
Agree, network transparency is a super power user feature.
And frankly VNC is good enough.
I just found it sad that a really powerful feature was dismissed as “no-one actually wants this” (yes I do) and “just use VNC” (I shouldn’t have to) and “just plug a monitor in” (well yeah).
I would have hoped that is have been a protocol extension or something rather than outright dismissed as “doing it wrong”.
I think thee main reason for some of Waylands feature cuts next to security and legacy stuff no one needs anymore is the unmaintainable giant X11 became but I agree, some sort of reliable way to extend the protocol directly would be cool to have eventually, usually that stuff shouldn’t really be in the protocol itself ether tho!
Oh hell no. Vnc isn’t application specific, dynamically resizable, and requires adding that to remote hosts when ssh and x is already there. You know nothing, John Snow.
Good enough, just means barely adequate, it doesn’t actually mean good.
But yeah. I like my X11.
Don’t tell me I don’t need it, I use it every day to run apps not yet available on arm from another system. I’ve used it for years at work, as well. Just because it’s for something other than fricking gamer’s doesn’t mean it is not needed.
I never claimed you or others don’t need it, just that it’s a featore most people don’t need… Furthermore almost anyone who claims to need it would be totally fine with a implementation outside of the display protocol (E.g. VNC) too so the amount of people who actually need it is extremly small.
No, Vnc is not a solution. It is an entire remote screen instead of individual remote apps. Claiming Vnc is a suitable replacement is just ignorance of the workflow.
If that’s not enough for your workflow you probably want Waypipe, maybe just Google before you rage for no reason next time! https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/
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Another vote for your answer. I just can’t be bothered to troubleshoot Wayland on Void if X11 just works already for my purposes.
Wayland if you have more that one monitor. X11 can support multiple monitors but it is a disaster.
Rustdesk doesn’t work on Wayland and that is a real bummer
I run a dual monitor on X11 and never understood why people have issues with it? I’m by no means a Linux expert and I do run in Nvidia, I run different refresh rates. Can someone explain it to me?
If your monitors are different DPIs then multimonitor X11 is awful.
If you’re questioning why anyone would have monitors with different DPIs remember that laptops exist.
Even without considering laptops, I can already imagine quite a few circumstances where someone might want monitors of differing DPIs. I’ve actually thought sometimes of getting a smaller monitor I can have off to the side that I display a browser window containing mostly text on when I’m playing videogames or working in something like Blender or Aseprite; yknow, for referencing a guide, wiki, or manual or something. I don’t even have a super high desire for a multi-monitor setup outside of that.
I run 2 monitors with different DPIs and X11 works without an issue. Can’t say the same about wayland where scaling still has so many bugs it’s just unusable.
You can’t set 2 different DPIs for the monitors on X11. On one monitor everything is just going to be bigger than the other. Depending on the DPI difference it can be basically unusable.
Valid point. I forgot about 4K… I run just 125% scale so it doesn’t bother me at all. Well it’s kinda funny that both protocols are broken in that regard.
I feel like taht’s often the case but Wayland as the newer protocol usually has the correct architecture with a early implementation while X11 has hard to fix architectural problems. I am a opponend of “whatever works for you” and I think that will be Wayland for most people fairly soon if it isn’t already but in case it actually isn’t I wouldn’t recommend it because, well, it doesn’t work properly for you.
You can configure software rescaling using xrandr and some scripts… But that can cause a massive amount of jank with anything that requires a degree of pixel accuracy
I do similar. For laptops and docks, especially if they change setups it can be a pita (though you just need to copy files around).
Also the DE monitor config (ie that you use to login) is logically different to a users x config. So you gotta copy that over to make sure the primary monitor etc is right.
x11
2 monitors 144hz, 1 TV 120hz.
Nothing on any monitor can render at higher than 120hz
Play movie on any one screen, other screens can’t render anything at higher than 24fps
Wayland works fine
Wayland. Because it’s X12. Not a spiritual successor to X11, but an implementation of a subset of X12 by the X11 people. The fact that X11 even works for desktop is a miracle, and only possible due to everyone deploying ass-backwards workarounds to make it work. Now the only changes to Xorg are related to Xwayland.
Wayland just feels more polished and clean.
Wayland. It generally works a bit better at this point, and it will only continue improving while X11 falls behind. I occasionally need to switch back to X.org for some legacy screen-casting or remote desktop apps, but even the ones that support Linux as an afterthought are starting to add beta Wayland support.
X.org is actually the foundation behind it and it’s kind of behind Wayland as well so you mean X11 but that’s a minor complaint I guesd
If Wayland works well enough for you, Wayland. If it doesn’t work, X11
I would refer you to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW3nYiK3nd0
I get screen tearing when gaming on x11 so i use wayland and I only switch to x11 if i need to screenshare on discord.
https://flathub.org/apps/de.shorsh.discord-screenaudio
I use this. Allows screensharing with audio over Wayland on discord.
Hasn’t really worked reliably for me tbh
Games again. Don’t you people have jobs?
Wayland is the future. X11’s future is dead. Unfortunately there are still some growing pains. Xwayland mostly works but I have issues with it sometimes.
