• empireOfLove@lemmy.oneEnglish
    2276·
    1 year ago

    What in the manufactured persecution fetish is this bullshit? Where’s the meme?

    • HurlingDurling@lemm.eeEnglish
      313·
      1 year ago

      Didn’t you hear? Everything is a meme now.

      This is a joke, but it’s also not (sadly)

      • YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de
        13·
        1 year ago

        Everything’s a joke, but nothing is. Everything’s ironic, but also everything’s serious. Jokes are meant to make light of situations, but you can’t make them about serious stuff. It’s Schrödinger’s comedy, a true definition of Metarcasm: Everything real is satire and every satire is genuine.

      • HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.oneEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        My4 Yo found one of those in a bathroom and i was so pissed. And i couldnt really explain to her why she “couldn’t have the comic.” I told her it wasn’t a nice thing and NOBODY shpuld be reading it.

          • Facebones@reddthat.com
            8·
            1 year ago

            I’ve known a few people who have been servers, who had the tip line scratched out and one of those fake $100 Bible tracts left for them.

            Sometimes I really believe they litter that shit as a power play and not as a missionary thing.

  • De_Narm@lemmy.world
    2145·
    1 year ago

    It’s funny how ‘getting an abortion’ is the most atheist thing the artist could think of - I believe that’s not even forbidden in the Bible?

    • Zombiepirate@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1935·
      1 year ago

      There’s a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible.

      Not reading it is part of the book club.

      • Lauchs@lemmy.world
        291·
        1 year ago

        I’ve been trying to find that bit and my apparently poor googling techniques are finding nothing. Do you mind sharing an article or passage? (Just got back from a vacation with some fairly religious family members who were goddamn tiring, would be nice to be able to cite this next time.)

        • Billiam@lemmy.world
          621·
          1 year ago

          Oh, if you want more fun, read them these two verses:

          Exodus 21:12:

          Anyone who assaults and kills another person must be put to death.

          And Exodus 21:22:

          When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that she has a miscarriage but no other injury occurs, then the guilty party will be fined what the woman’s husband demands, as negotiated with the judges.

          Then ask them why the punishment for killing a person is not the same as the punishment for causing a miscarriage.

          After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

          At this point, you’ll probably be called a godless baby killer and uninvited from Thanksgiving dinner.

          • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
            91·
            1 year ago

            After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

            According to Google Translate, the original Hebrew for just that phrase directly translates to “and her children went out,” but with the full context of the verse it becomes “and her children are born.” Make of that what you will.

            I could translate it to “and she gets a black eye,” but that doesn’t make the word itself any less reliable, only my wrong translation. I don’t know about the people you hang out with, but I’m pretty sure it’s important for Christians to understand that human translations are prone to error.

            • Billiam@lemmy.world
              13·
              1 year ago

              It’s problematic to try to read that verse as just meaning “born” exactly because of the context. The whole passage is about restitution in two scenarios: a pregnant woman who is injured as a bystander from two men fighting and

              1. suffers an unclear birth event with no additional damage

              2. suffers an unclear birth event with additional damage.

              Breaking it down that way, it seems apparent to me that the birth event must mean a miscarriage. If two men fight and that causes a woman to go into labor, but her child is safely delivered, what restitution would be owed? What harm has actually been caused? That actually eliminates scenario 1. The only way the whole passage makes any sense for the father to be owed payment is to see what property he has been deprived of- a potential child, or a potential child and his wife. And this just helps to reinforce the point: the punishment for causing the death of a person is not the same as for causing a miscarriage, which means that in the Old Testament unborn fetuses we’re not equal to people

              And no, American Evangelicals do not allow any room for error in translation of the Bible, because they see it as God’s direct word to man and therefore it can’t be wrong.

              • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Guess I must be something other than an American Evangelical then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                It sounds like you found a sensible way to translate it.

            • Cabrio@lemmy.world
              121·
              1 year ago

              Born, or birthed? A stillborn is still birthed. See, we can play this game for millenia, others already have.

              • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                I copied what Google Translate told me. I’m no expert on matters relating to birth. That’s why I said “make of that what you will.”

                However, I do know that we have a lot more technical language than they did back then, so that’s something to keep in mind.

                • MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  The people who downvoted this have no sense of humor. C’mon, “borth?”… objectively hilarious.

          • rurb@lemmy.ml
            22·
            1 year ago

            Pro-abortion in the case of adultery or rape. Plus it is from the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament so it’s a Christian thing by inheritance from Judaism.

        • Neko@lemmy.worldEnglish
          161·
          1 year ago

          There is a kind of “recipe” in Numbers 5:11-31

          It’s a “test for an unfaithful wife” but it’s a curse which would make a woman miscarry a child if it belonged to someone other than her husband.

        • HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org
          5·
          1 year ago

          It really doesn’t mention abortions far as I can tell, and the people who say the Abrahamic tradition is anti-abortion is a bunch of shit as well.

          My Source

        • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
          56·
          1 year ago

          Just ask them how god defines weddings in Christianity then point out Jews had weddings first.

          • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
            4·
            1 year ago

            They’re both abrahamic religions… It would make sense that God (being the same supernatural being in both religions) would have the same definition under both religions…

            • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              1 year ago

              It would but it doesn’t. Jews by and large don’t care about homosexual marriage and even find it acceptable per God’s teachings. The only ones who don’t are the conservative Jews.

              Christians on the other hand by and large care about homosexuality alot. Add to it Christians (in the states at least) like to say that they defined marriage, there’s proof that isn’t true. So if Christians didn’t invent it and were born of Judaism that would say to be that Christian belief regarding marriage is irrelevant from a “we created it” standpoint.

              Tying it back to my original thought, pointing that out to Christians pisses them off.

              This also works with abortion. Most Jews don’t care about it, some even go so far as to say this “a baby before birth is merely a part of the mother’s body.” Meaning it’s up to the mother what to do about her body. Up to and including termination.

  • Wage_slave@lemmy.ml
    1478·
    1 year ago

    Finally a relatable comic that offers a true look into the home of your standard antifa, or uppity lib.

    Why just the other day I found a baptism certificate in my daughters backpack.

    Well that was three abortions and the gender reassignment is booked for next year.

    Seriously though, holy fuck. How does someone come up with that nonsense and actually believe that?

    • Diplomjodler@feddit.de
      291·
      1 year ago

      There’s two types. One that is really that stupid and one that just wants to create chaos. There has been scientific research about this.

    • TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      272·
      1 year ago

      THE YOUTH PASTOR PREGNANCY ABORTIONS FOR MY LITTLE SUSIE ARE JUST FINE.

      It’s all the other little whores who are enjoying sex or may die from their pregnancies that we really worry about. Those babies need to be saved for Jesus.

      • Starshader@lemmy.ml
        14·
        1 year ago

        We’re talking about a religion based on the fact that a god made a girl pregnant without her consent. So I guess it’s part of their beliefs ?

  • words_number@programming.dev
    1012·
    1 year ago

    The fact that this is not satire about conservatives ridiculous fever dreams, but a serious depiction of one, makes it really damn funny :'D

  • iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
    884·
    1 year ago

    Wow, I don’t even know how to process this. The dumbass conservatives are getting so confused about life they’re actually creating sarcastic comics about their way of thinking unintentionally.

    This is peak irony

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      291·
      1 year ago

      Conservatives don’t know how comedy works. I call it the Yo Mama hypothesis.

      When you were a kid, and other kids lied about your mom, you got mad, right? And eventually they’d say - relax, it’s a joke, stop crying. And if you’re reading this then you probably grew to understand the difference between saying something and meaning it.

      I don’t think every kid got there.

      I think a lot of kids, maybe a whole quarter of humanity, only learned that jokes are insults you have to shut up and take. They’re cruelty you’re not allowed to get mad about. How would those kids act differently? They’d stop crying, mostly, when people told rude lies about their mothers. They’d snap back at other kids, telling rude lies about their mothers. From those events you’d figure, great! They get it. It’s not real. Except… they only look right from the outside. On the inside, they’re gathering a list of excuses for vicious behavior.

      These people know what jokes look like. They’re clever enough to build a punchline. They kinda get how you tell jokes. But they have no idea why you tell jokes.

      People defending Dave Chappelle insisted “he’s a comedian!” like that absolved all his opinions. I’ve walked those people through how jokes require setup that reflects sincere beliefs. (Like how “eat the rich” is a joke about classism and cannibalism, but it’s only joking about the cannibalism.) I’ve cited the many times Dave repeated certain claims far from any stage. But these folks never come acknowledge that being a TERF is not part of the act. That’s not how it works, in their worldview.

      Being a comedian means he gets to say things you’re Not Supposed To Say, even if they’re things you absofuckinglutely believe. That’s all they thought Jon Stewart was doing. That’s why they thought Stephen Colbert was on their side.

      The same people routinely parroted “you can joke about anything,” which is equally revealing. They’d heard it because they insisted “you can’t joke about [blank]!” even for the most benign, supportive, and inoffensive gags. And also for dead-baby jokes and antitheism. Point is: these types don’t care about severity, because they don’t care about meaning. They believe in blasphemy. They think condemnation, criticism, or even just speaking less-than-reverently about a subject is profaning something sacred, and chances are good they’ll hit kids for doing it.

      We told them every subject is fair game for fair jokes. They’d stop yelling, mostly. And from that event we’d figure, great, they get it. But on the inside, they still believe the issue is what a joke is about. They still think joking is an attack under agreed-upon rules of engagement. So of course funny black man shit on trans people. They don’t like trans people. It’s hardly a secret. What’s our beef, saying he’s not allowed to spout jokes full of prejudice and hatred? They’re jokes. That’s what they’re for.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        101·
        1 year ago

        I think conservatives are just generally bad at creative endeavors because they lack empathy. You need to understand the audience to be able to connect with them. Someone who lacks in empathy is going to have a tendency to not care about what they’re doing affects other people. If it’s funny to them, then it’s funny. The audience’s feelings don’t matter.

        This has been exacerbated by podcasting. Used to be if a comedian bombed, there was nothing to do about it other than work on their material. Come up with some new jokes. But now a comedian bombs, they go on Joe Rogan and whine about how bad the audience is. They feel like the important people on the podcasts are their friends, while the audiences are an enemy unless they conform to what the important people define as being funny.

        Conservatives have a tendency to prefer hierarchies even when they’re at the bottom of it. To them, the famous person on stage is more important than the audience. Therefore the audience is obligated to laugh at their jokes. If they don’t, there’s something wrong with the audience, not anything wrong with the jokes. Doesn’t matter if the jokes are old, doesn’t matter if culture has changed since the times when those old jokes got laughs.

        You’re a bad person if you don’t consume the content that the important people make. Cancel culture!

        Of course the reality is there is such a thing as creativity, connecting to the audience, understanding cultural norms that you can use them in interesting (and funny ways). But if you’re lacking in talent in these things (or just gotten lazy which is what I feel happened with Chappelle) you can always go the route of “I hate the same things you hate” then all you need to do is make something that resembles the form of something actual creative people make. Conservatives fall in line, laugh on cue, and the uncreative people make money.

        • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
          31·
          1 year ago

          Hierarchy defines conservatism. It’s tribalism. It’s the default human mindset, where truth is defined by people above you, and if they’re wrong about stuff then they’re the wrong people to have above you. So disagreement is a threat. A leader can’t just be wrong. That’d mean they’re the wrong person, to lead. How dare you challenge them? Look how much money they have. Their penis must be enormous.

          Basically - reality is a team sport, to some people. They have no objective means of evaluating claims. In their worldview, that is not what claims are for. Even their stated ideals are ad-hoc justifications. Nothing matters besides ingroup loyalty.

          Conservatives don’t believe things. Conservatives believe people.

          Notably this is distinct from right versus left. There are left-wing conservatives. Mostly tankies. It’s hard to square a critical philosophy opposed to hierarchy with loyalist posturing for ingroup supremacy, but they have the benefit of not really caring what words mean.

          Conversely, there’s right-wing cranks who are not conservatives. You can spot them with boot-prints on their backsides, once the group radically shifts to some new bullshit. They believed what they were saying. The fools. They’ll argue the new leader isn’t last-year’s-bullshit enough, which marks them as traitors who want him deposed and humiliated and short. It’s too bad that being shunned as a RINO leaves them full of bad arguments for worse ideas.

          The saddest part of this is probably the school-shooting victims with braces. I mean that’s just money down the drain. The saddest part of this that’s not a shock-comedy aside is that conservative humor can be good. Some More News had a video about that modern wasteland of kneejerk contrarian bragging, performative allegiance, and joke-shaped sentences. But they also remind us the Blue Collar Comedy Tour was full of fantastic material. That wasn’t a lifetime ago. People can’t have changed that much. But the figureheads of the figurehead-obsessed went from bad to indefensible - and when those assholes are out, that won’t address the underlying cause.

    • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
      24·
      1 year ago

      In case you haven’t heard of them, chick tracts have been hilariously bad since before the Internet. They are plentiful, and at least as insane as this comic here. You could dedicate a sub to them. One of my favorites was one ‘in the near future’ where non-christian children were compared to Hitler youth.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      283·
      1 year ago

      They live in an echo chamber where everyone repeats the same nonsense, so yeah, I think loads of them believe it.

      • Pinklink@lemm.ee
        52·
        1 year ago

        For educational purposes, go watch Fox News for an hour (WARNING: more than 90 minutes can cause brain damage). I absolutely guarantee you will hear the same phrase, with the same wording, 20-200 times (sometimes they are more emphatic depending on the subject) within that hour. If you repeat it enough times, some people will take it as hard fact.

    • NotSpez@lemm.ee
      203·
      1 year ago

      They not only can, but they will. Underlining the importance of anyone who sees this as obvious idiocy to vote as well.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      51·
      1 year ago

      It’s possible he thinks this is what would have to be true, for criticism of Christianity to make sense.

      But it’s more likely he recognizes this is absurd, and targeted at his outgroup, and… end of thought process.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        41·
        1 year ago

        There’s this weird thing where these people fantasize about the debauchery that liberals are doing.

        It’s basically a fetish for them.

  • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
    492·
    1 year ago

    I know that this is serious, but it’s so bad is good.
    It has become the parody of a parody, this comic has so many layers of irony that transcends politics

  • Starb3an@sh.itjust.works
    44·
    1 year ago

    I feel like this should go in c/therightcantmeme, or c/conservativescantmeme. I don’t remember the exact name

  • Cows Look Like Maps@sh.itjust.works
    422·
    1 year ago

    Imagine if we just leaned into their wacky right-wing conception of pro-choice and were like “yeah, our endgame is to have as many abortions as possible per capita.” Their heads would explode lol

    • droans@lemmy.world
      102·
      1 year ago

      Well 75% of his cartoons feature blatant racism, so I’m gonna go with no.

      And I don’t mean like dog whistle racism or microaggression, I mean like you’d expect to find these comics in the KKK magazine level.