• MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    1. Russia has no say on NATO membership they can grind their teeth and whine like a baby as much as they want.

    It is assumed putini will instruct dumpy to block it anyway and they can’t be members until the war is over.

    1. Everything you see in regards to Ukraine for the next few months will be about setting up negotiations zelensky stepping down is part of that.

    2. Zelensky has been president for nearly 5 years most of that while at war, I don’t blame him in wanting to step down.

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      Russia has no say on NATO membership they can grind their teeth and whine like a baby as much as they want.

      No, if or the EU leaders insists on Ukraine getting into Nato, then Russia will just keep the war going and end Ukraine as a state if they have to. They of course don’t want that burden, but they are very ready and capable of doing that. That is their veto regarding Ukrainian nato membership.

      It’s even easier now that US is pulling out. Why would the Russians ever give concessions like that to Ukraine now? Is west going to sanction Russia even more? Give Ukraine more of the ever more anemic amounts of weapons?

      Plus every European country knows that taking Ukraine into Nato while the war is going on is like vote if they want to escalate this thing over Ukraine into a hot war against Russia that will go nuclear. Ukrainians themselves of course want that outcome. For them it would be just more bodies dying with them and for them, since they can’t seem to accept anything else than their vision on total victory. These Zelensky’s idiotic words just confirm that even more. That is also why unless a miracle happens and despite the talk form Ukraine and EU leaders Ukraine is never getting into Nato. That’s just a fact. Ukraine lost, get over it. Than fuck “the orange man” and his team has some sense in this regard.