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    4 days ago

    Interesting how you’re more interested in condemning Biden and Harris for this thing they didn’t do than Trump for doing it. In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.

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        I can’t even blame Russia at this point. These people seriously do not give a shit about this genocide apart from the political points it can score them.

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          Go to hexbear’s mutual_aid community, look at the posts there, and tell me again how much more .world cares about palestinians

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                Can’t. I blocked that shithole a long time ago. Have no intention to reverse this decision until the day comes that I start seeing a better quality of people in support of it.

                That day is not today.

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                    Yeah… the overwhelming majority of an entire social media platform is clearly wrong for defederating from a toxic shithole, and now, according to you- one has their “eyes closed” for not wanting to ingest vitriol that’s so bad that the same majority of an entire federated community that’s willing to allow twitter links- still shut out your little gas-filed swamp of blowhards?

                    Hard pass. I’ll keep my eyes open, thanks. It’s allowed me to make the aforementioned observation.

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      In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.

      The difference is? Trump didn’t lie about it, he said, outright this is what he was going to do. Harris planned to do the exact same thing, but with a pride flag, and it would have been a woman making the bombs being dropped onto kids.

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      I will think back to threads like this every time I wonder why Democrats never achieve anything meaningful and the country continues to lurch toward fascism. You all seem to be more interested in team sports than actually having principles and expectations for your own party.

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        The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump. Their reason doesn’t matter, they’re fascism-enabling Trump supporters in every way that matters.

        If you didn’t vote, or if you didn’t vote for Kamala, you helped Trump get elected. That’s not politics, it’s math.

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          The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump.

          I’m a leftist, and I do not, nor have ever, supported Trump. I just didn’t support the other genocider, either. Because I have principles that I stand on, one of which is “Never give support to genociders”.

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              Your inaction is part of the problem.

              Why isn’t Harris’ inaction part of the problem? I mean, she could have said,“You know, genocide is bad, and when I take office, I will end all support for Israel until they agree to an immediate ceasefire?”

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                She was never President, so we’ll never know. Trump literally said he was going to “finish the problem” but you didn’t see any problems with letting him take office. How do you defend that decision?

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                  Harris said she supported Israel, unwavereringly.

                  So, true, we don’t know for sure. Would have helped if she said she’d end US support for the genocide, if she won…

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                    No it wouldn’t have. You’d have fallen for some other propaganda designed to get you to stay home.

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          The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump

          We fucking didn’t. Not voting for Kamala isn’t supporting Trump, it’s just rejecting genocide. If democrats passed progressive policy and stopped a genocide, they might have had a chance, but they’d rather lose the elections to a fascist than actually pushing progressive policy.

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            There were no actual leftists on the ballot in every state that campaigned beyond the election year. Kamala was the realistic option. It’s perfectly reasonable to be conflicted about voting for someone because they’re the lesser of two evils, but there’s nothing rational thinking a leftist or faux leftist candidate that only shows up during election years had a realistic chance of winning.

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              It’s perfectly reasonable to be conflicted about voting for someone because they’re the lesser of two evils,

              There is no “conflicted” on whether or not I should support a genocider. How well do you sleep at night, knowing you supported a genocider?

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              Exactly, so you make it clear to the democrats in the meanwhile: either you move to the left, or eat shit. They decided to do the latter. Now start blaming them for the loss and move towards organising labour and political orgs

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                70+ million people decided to show up even though it made them feel bad. I’m going to blame the people who stayed home because voting made them uncomfortable.

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                  Genocide and the lack of anything to look forward from the policy of their country made them stay home

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                    Let’s be real, the vast majority of the what, 70 ish million that stayed home probably didn’t even know what day the election was.

                    To your point, yeah, a bunch of people wanted to bury their head in the sand to feel better about themselves. This reality is the result.