You keep calling android/ios a toy operating system. Your bias is showing.
Its not charitable to call tablets niche. It’s accurate. The same goes for 2-in-1 “convertable” laptops.
Fact is, if you are arguing that a laptop that doubkes as a tablet is a good device then you are arguing that the need/want and use case for tablets is great enough that they are augmenting laptops into tablets to satisfy that need for consumers.
Going back to the original point. Foldables are good devices that cover a range of needs that are not met by regular phones. You dont need a laptop to do these things, and i can’t put a laptop in my pocket and use it absolutely anywhere by just taking it out of my pocket and pressing the power button.
Your insistance on arguing that desktops and laptops are the only way to do anything is just wrong. That is proven by the market share. Desktops have about 35% and phones have about 60%
No, my desire for autonomy is showing. My Linux PC is my computer and it responds to my decree, as a certain hammy Skyrim character would put it. Android and iOS have the audacity to tell me what I’m allowed to do with my own device, which as far as I’m concerned makes them unserious.
You are of course welcome to disagree with my opinion.
My argument for convertible laptops is that, if you want a tablet for whatever reason, you can have your tablet without the downsides.
But you introduce another number of downsides. “Non-toy” OS’s are notoriously bad at touch screen operation, mobile OS’s are brilliant at it. Convertable laptops are heavier and have more moving and breakable parts, the batteries dont last as long, the screens are more fragile, they are less widely covered by competant repair services as they are fairly unique in their design, in that they will be harder to get parts for.
Incidentally. Using a custom rom for an android phone mitigates your offence to being “told what you are allowed to do” with your device, and even linux has mobile OS’s.
Comparing desktop and phone market share is iffy because a lot of people have both and I don’t believe there are any reliable statistics on the subject to use in our debate.
As for foldables, was it not your argument that you’d rather use one in place of a laptop? If it’s meant to be just a phone with a bigger screen, I guess that’s cool, but I’d still want to have a computer with a real keyboard and operating system available to me.
No, my argument is that they cover a large number of functions that mean i dont need to lug a laptop around with me everywhere. Of course, i will use a laptop or desktop if i can’t do something i need to do on my phone, but it’s so rare now that i dont even know if my laptop is charged.
Like i mentioned making music. I will use cubasis (sorry, i said elemennts before. That was the one i have on my pc) to sketch out songs. But use my pc when i need a proper recording. But the convenience of composing on my phone (which would be very hard on a none folding or tablet sized screen) takes the majority of the need for my PC for making music away.
Anyway, you are just telling me that your specific use case means you prefer a full desktop and desktop OS. But your pretentiousness ignores that the majority of people dont need that setup. And whilst my needs might include some niche stuff, many of my needs more closely align with the needs of the many.
In a question of which is better, the device that meets the needs of the majority is best. Unless you are asking which is best for me, in which case a comparison is meaningless. As all of our needs are different in small ways.
You keep calling android/ios a toy operating system. Your bias is showing.
Its not charitable to call tablets niche. It’s accurate. The same goes for 2-in-1 “convertable” laptops.
Fact is, if you are arguing that a laptop that doubkes as a tablet is a good device then you are arguing that the need/want and use case for tablets is great enough that they are augmenting laptops into tablets to satisfy that need for consumers.
Going back to the original point. Foldables are good devices that cover a range of needs that are not met by regular phones. You dont need a laptop to do these things, and i can’t put a laptop in my pocket and use it absolutely anywhere by just taking it out of my pocket and pressing the power button.
Your insistance on arguing that desktops and laptops are the only way to do anything is just wrong. That is proven by the market share. Desktops have about 35% and phones have about 60%
Its not even close.
No, my desire for autonomy is showing. My Linux PC is my computer and it responds to my decree, as a certain hammy Skyrim character would put it. Android and iOS have the audacity to tell me what I’m allowed to do with my own device, which as far as I’m concerned makes them unserious.
You are of course welcome to disagree with my opinion.
My argument for convertible laptops is that, if you want a tablet for whatever reason, you can have your tablet without the downsides.
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But you introduce another number of downsides. “Non-toy” OS’s are notoriously bad at touch screen operation, mobile OS’s are brilliant at it. Convertable laptops are heavier and have more moving and breakable parts, the batteries dont last as long, the screens are more fragile, they are less widely covered by competant repair services as they are fairly unique in their design, in that they will be harder to get parts for.
Incidentally. Using a custom rom for an android phone mitigates your offence to being “told what you are allowed to do” with your device, and even linux has mobile OS’s.
Comparing desktop and phone market share is iffy because a lot of people have both and I don’t believe there are any reliable statistics on the subject to use in our debate.
As for foldables, was it not your argument that you’d rather use one in place of a laptop? If it’s meant to be just a phone with a bigger screen, I guess that’s cool, but I’d still want to have a computer with a real keyboard and operating system available to me.
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No, my argument is that they cover a large number of functions that mean i dont need to lug a laptop around with me everywhere. Of course, i will use a laptop or desktop if i can’t do something i need to do on my phone, but it’s so rare now that i dont even know if my laptop is charged.
Like i mentioned making music. I will use cubasis (sorry, i said elemennts before. That was the one i have on my pc) to sketch out songs. But use my pc when i need a proper recording. But the convenience of composing on my phone (which would be very hard on a none folding or tablet sized screen) takes the majority of the need for my PC for making music away.
Anyway, you are just telling me that your specific use case means you prefer a full desktop and desktop OS. But your pretentiousness ignores that the majority of people dont need that setup. And whilst my needs might include some niche stuff, many of my needs more closely align with the needs of the many.
In a question of which is better, the device that meets the needs of the majority is best. Unless you are asking which is best for me, in which case a comparison is meaningless. As all of our needs are different in small ways.