• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    How the fuck can they argue presidential immunity when he was not fucking president at the time. SCOTUS said immunity for official acts as president. He was not president and therefore not an official act.

    The amount of legal and mental gymnastics it takes to not sentenced this sack of shit to some real time is fucking epic. I can’t believe our entire legal system rolls over and plays dead for Aotus.

    I guess they have proven him right though. It is all a show and none of it is real anymore. Pathetic.

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      It’s because SCOTUS also said anything in the aura of an official act can’t be used as evidence. So if the president, as a private individual, does something illegal, but the only evidence is from an official presidential communication, sorry, can’t use it. It’s bullshit, but that’s what they ruled.

      Trump’s team was claiming that key evidence was subject to this immunity. But the judge completely shot them down.

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        I mean what you say is logical except for the fact he was not President when this happened. Hence the mental/legal gymnastics unless I am missing something.

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      It’s a fantasy that he would see jail time for this sentence - even if he weren’t president.

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          Michael Cohen, well-off white guy and lawyer who arranged this actual crime for Trump already went to prison for it years ago, so that’s clearly not true.

          Why did it take 8 years to convict Trump of the same crime? Michael Cohen finished his sentence and was released in 2021.

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          Unless they steal money from other rich people. No need to bring race into this. It’s all class

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    Meanwhile, South Korea is in the process of arresting their president who attempted a coup exactly month ago.

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      Ah but see in South Korea the President failed to first make sure the National Assembly would back him no matter what.

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    “Only by bringing finality to this matter” will the interests of justice be served, Merchan wrote.

    But apparently not with any actual consequences.

    I can’t help, but wonder, if Trump had just said, “yeah I paid a porn star to sleep with me. What of it? Who cares?” Then none of this would’ve happened as far as I can determine.

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      I can’t help, but wonder, if Trump had just said, “yeah I paid a porn star to sleep with me. What of it? Who cares?” Then none of this would’ve happened as far as I can determine.

      The issue wasn’t that he lied about it, as I understand it, the issue was that he claimed the money he paid to Stormy Daniels as a tax deductible campaign expense.

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    Am I correct in thinking that Cohen was sentenced to three years but the sack of shit who directed him to commit those crimes won’t see even a single day behind bars?

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    Have him on probation, with a gps tracker on his leg, weekly check-ins and mandatory drug tests. Fucker.

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      Honestly, it’s probably more about being realistic. By the same logic of the presidential immunity that SCOTUS invented, you wouldn’t be able to imprison a sitting president. The other option for a punishment is a fine, which Trump likely would refuse to pay, and then what? They can’t jail him for the refusal because presidential immunity. So, the judge is admitting that nothing he tries to impose is going to stick.

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    Is this surprising, like, at all? He’ll never get what he deserves. But we all got what we deserved.

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    I’m sure he’ll really learn his lesson with this.

    Crime never pays. Except when it does when everyone lets it slide for no reason.

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    Judge just wants to close this clown car of a case, open a bottle of whiskey and move to Denmark.

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    It’s gonna just be a fine. That he pays for by selling hats and shoes to clueless supporters.

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      It’s not even going to be a fine. The indications the judge has given are that it will be a felony record and nothing more.