• FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Russia is more imperialist and more capitalist than the US.

    Communism, like actual communism? Sounds great to me.

    Russia? Is just as close to communism as the sun is to being cold.

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Russia is not even close to being more imperialist than the US. I’d describe its actions in Ukraine as revanchist, not imperialist, and to be clear thats still bad. But United States does like 1000% the amount of neoimperalist garbage throughout the global south and thats well documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

      And that article is just the overt stuff, not the just regular old economic plundering of the global south they get up to usually.

      More capitalist? Eh, I guess that can be argued. Both countries are run by oligarchs though. The USA is just more polite about it.

      Russia? Is just as close to communism as the sun is to being cold.

      We don’t disagree on this and I never stated otherwise. You have very clearly strawmanned me.

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        1 year ago

        I put forth the idea that an oligarchy where the oligarchs are somewhat nerfed by infighting and changing of power between presidents is marginally better than an oligarchy with a dictator that cannot be removed.

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          American oligarchs are barely infighting. At the end of the day, the capitalist class has class solidarity, even if they quibble over abortion. There’s a communist term (you say you are fine with actual communism, so you shouldnt have a problem with it since its a term Marx invented) called “dictatorship of the bourgeoise”. Thats what Americans live under. The difference between that and a more overt autocracy is basically politeness about it. I won’t deny that the United States has better queer rights than Russia (for now… I’m not confident in how long that will continue to be the case, I am deathly afraid the United States is quickly sliding towards fascism) and I would rather live here than Russia as a bi man. On that we don’t disagree. We disagree on the geopolitical implications of the War in Ukraine. We do not disagree that Russia’s government is bad, or even that Putin did a bad thing by invading.