Yippee Kay Yay… (The only movie that doesn’t depresses me in Xmas)
My dad was arguing that it wasn’t because being set at Christmas isn’t enough, and said a bunch of things typical of a Christmas movie to have; while I countered with a list of things that happen in Die Hard that met his criteria.
“Someone needs to receive a gift.”
“McClane was gifted a machine gun.”
“There needs to be a miracle.”
“It’s a miracle John survived.”
“It needs to capture the feeling of Christmas.”
“Have you never spent time with your relatives at Christmas? It feels just like being held hostage at Nakatomi Plaza.”
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I thought this was a closed deal? Of course it is a Christmas movie.
subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.
Technically it is set during Christmas, but it’s not about Christmas. But a movie tons of people like to watch at Christmastime is a Christmas movie.
It has Christmas music in the soundtrack, the b plot is about family mending, and it takes place during a Christmas party.
Yeah but IMO those trappings don’t make it a Christmas movie. Die Hard is an action movie people like to watch around Christmas, which is all a movie needs to make it a Christmas movie. I mean there’s porn that features Santa’s naughty elves, but nobody watches it to get into the Christmas spirit.
You might not, but it doesn’t mean other people don’t. Elf is a Christmas themed family movie the same way Die Hard is a Christmas themed action movie.
Saying that first line as someone who has written some holiday themed smut before.
Some conversations are people just saying what they think and not offering airtight, irrefutable proofs.
Never understood where that came from. Definitely not a Christmas movie for me.
The set up for the plot is that everyone is at a holiday party, in addition the cops were slow to respond because of the holiday (Hans Gruber planned for this). Without xmas, the date of the attack would have been different and a special someone whould not have been in the building either.
Sure, but just because a movie happens to play around Christmas time doesn’t really make it a Christmas movie.
No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.
It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen
That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.
