For anyone who thinks they’re “stuck” with chrome, Firefox has gotten it’s shit together massively in the last few years.
Firefox has never not had it’s shit together. It’s worked fine. I never understood people having issues with it, unless they were running like 50 extensions and a bunch of grease monkey scripts along with a crusty old profile with a massive cache of old data.
Meanwhile everyone is complaining about Chrome eating up all their RAM
Funnily enough Chromium actually consumes less RAM and is safer due to better sandboxing.
But neither of these concern the average user. However, the main difference between the browsers user may notice is how pages that are still loading behave. Firefox has the correct behavior. Aka waiting for vast majority of the elements to finish loading versus Chromium just going “if it’s rendered it’s intractable.” This unfortunately means that Firefox feels slower even though it’s actually faster.
Also, on behalf of the dark mode enjoyers, flashing white for a moment while launching, loading web pages or updating contents of a webpage is incredibly annoying. None of the Chromium browsers flash white on dark mode.
I don’t think FF supports PWAs yet. I need to use Chromium to turn some sites like Discord into PWAs, as the desktop Linux version doesn’t screen share on Wayland. I also like having YTM as an app.
I believe that there is an extension for Firefox pwa support, but the Android version definitely supports pwas natively.
Does Firefox support multiple windows on iPad OS yet? That was the reason I stayed with Chrome for so long, and also is why I’ve more recently switched to Edge as the only other cross-platform browser I could find that had that.
I’m not sure, but Firefox on iOS isn’t true Firefox. To my knowledge, Apple doesn’t allow browsers to use anything but their Safari engine. As another user put it, “Firefox on iOS is barely more than a skin for Safari.”
I can speak to Firefox on desktop and Android, however: they’re fantastic!
tl;dr: If FF sucks on iOS, it’s Apple’s fault.
If FF sucks on iOS, it’s Apple’s fault.
Nope, not in this case. iPad OS has supported multiple windows of the same app for years now (since 2018 or 2019), and Safari naturally supported it out of the gate. Google supported it in Chrome very quickly, and Microsoft got around to it with Edge last year.
It turns out that while the rendering part of all browsers on iOS is Safari, the skin and UI elements (the “chrome” that Google’s browser was named after) are all custom to each app. And Firefox has been very poor at upgrading theirs.
That’s so weird, then, that it’d be so radically different than it is on Android. Why do you think that is?
Is it radically different? It’s a feature that iPad OS supports that the iPhone version of iOS doesn’t, and I don’t think Android does (though I’ve not used an Android tablet in nearly 10 years, so maybe tablets on Android can do it?). Obviously desktops all support multiple windows and have done forever. Technically, by not having implemented this feature it actually means it’s more similar to Android.
Firefox is rather under-resourced in terms of developer power, and they’ve been consistently prioritising other things rather than implementing this feature. I don’t think there’s much more to it than that. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation for why they haven’t done it—any team needs to prioritise what they work on. But it’s also reasonable for a user who values that feature to choose a competitor that has delivered it over one that has not. That’s the natural trade-off.
I’m dumb, and had to reread what you wrote. I thought you meant tabs this whole time (doh). I haven’t even used an iPad before, so I didn’t know that feature existed. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen multiple windows of Firefox on Android (but you can have multiple apps open side-by-side).
I think it is unlikely Mozilla would support that feature, given the lack of resources and demand; iPad’s are niche.
Yeah and that’s fine. I’m not saying Firefox is evil for not having this feature or anything like that. I’m merely explaining why it is that I find it to be a sub-par option, and why I choose Edge instead, for the moment.
I mean this with no personal enmity: piss off with your iPad. (Don’t expect power user features to actually be good)
Umm, why? With all due respect, why would you expect me to stop using a device that does everything I want it to perfectly well? I use Edge and it syncs with my Windows desktop and Android phone perfectly well. Both Edge and Google Chrome have supported this feature. It’s only Firefox that is being a laggard.
This is not an iPad problem, it’s a Firefox one.
Firefox is the only browser on Android which still doesn’t have tabs. Wrangling multiple tabs on a tablet or foldable is just a pain on Firefox. Chrome on standard screen sizes even has tab groups. Until then, Firefox is a no go for me.
Enjoy your chromium experience with blank spaces and cookies popups then
Sure, I’m enjoying Vivaldi right now. 👍
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As a zoomer I can never convince my friends to install AdBlock, they think it’s too much of a hassle.
You literally install and forget it’s there, it’s not hard at all. Tell your friends their basic. 😆 Also, thank you for fighting the good fight. ✊
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Yeah, who would’ve thought that the advertising company would modify their software so that it doesn’t work if you block the advertisements.
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The day I can’t block ads is the day I stop browsing the internet. I’ve been blocking ads since the popups and banner days.
They really do want us to use Firefox, don’t they?
There is convenience in being used to a browser, but there is more convenience in not having to deal with ads. That’s why I use Firefox on Android.
I honestly don’t get people that say “I use Chrome because I’m used to it”. It’s not like Firefox and Chrome are immensely different when it comes to UX, right? The interface is pretty similar.
Sure. But I also professionally use a product that works better on Chrome (and Edge nowadays) so I’m lazy about it. Eventually I’ll move to Firefox on my home PC. But in on my work PC and phone 95% of the time already so it’s not going to make a huge dent.
Hey! Don’t let them know that they’re doing the world a favor! You know - the ‘don’t be evil’ thing.
Kiss my sexy Klingon ass, Google. I will forever battle ads.
Google can do whatever bullshit they want, I am still not letting go of adblock
I won’t use sites with WEI or adblock blockers
I won’t use chromium
You can lead the sheep to the spyware but you can’t force them to open it
They can pry adblockers from our cold dead hands. Then other people will make new ones.
They may kill this iteration of ad blockers. But there will always be another and another. Google has a lot of smart people working for them. There are also a lot of smart people in the FOSS community that will eventually find a way around it.
At the end of the day there will still be people recording songs by holding two boom boxes together.
Make software that runs on your computer that uses machine learning to detect ads on you screen and put kitties and puppy pictures over them. Browser and sites couldn’t do shit about it unless they start acting like anticheats scanning your computer for that software etc…
Hm, can we make an anti-WEI movement? Have a bunch of websites block browsers using WEI, to force it away?
I know that won’t actually work, but a man can dream…
Donate to orgs like the EFF, Mozilla, and the FSF. Lobby your congressperson, your senators, and Biden to make the FTC to start doing its goddamn job again and enforce antitrust law.
The only real solution to this creeping megalomaniacal monopolistic behavior is legislative.
The real hope is the EU doing the right thing again and curb stomping the fuck out of google and hopefully the results spread across the world.
My normal internet usage consists of 50% ads, i get more ads on instagram than actual posts so i’ve started shitposting comments on the ads.
Leave my digital space alone, but since you don’t have the decency we have to do it ourselves.
Get a DNS Sinkhole like PiHole or use an adblocking DNS.
For YouTube I can recommend NewPipe (mobile) and FreeTube (desktop).
For everything else I use uBlock.
Edit: I don’t have Instagram so I don’t know how they serve ads. If they have separate domains for ads they can be blocked using a PiHole, though.
Tbh instagram is just a shithole because every post is someone flexing their influencer deal, trying to sell you some bullshit.
The rest are just true ads hosted by facebook (as far as i’m aware, since you can’t advertise on instagram without a facebook account).
I’m using an adblock on firefox and my internet on my pc is decent, it actually feels like i’m using the internet compared to it using me to shovel ads into my face.
Firefox FTW
UBlock Origin is fire
people still use chrome-based browsers?! I thought that was a thing of the past, after the privacy wars ended.
People still browse the internet? Jeez man that was invented ages ago!
I think Google overestimates my Internet addiction and underestimates my steadfast hatred of advertisements.
Been on chrome for like 12 years. Syncs across my phone, everything. I will make the switch. I have been wondering when google was going to go evil. Why not 2023 like everything else on the internet?
Honestly just shocked how well Adblockalypse rolls off the tongue despite being the linguistic equivalent of three kids in a trench coat
it baffles me that people are still using Google Chrome.
I’m from the Philippines and I can explain why, at least here, most people still use chrome. Over here, we’re much more concerned about our money and time over our rights and privacy, which means we usually just choose the most convenient and cheap money-wise, which is why the majority of us still use chrome and why the government here can get away with so much shit. we don’t care about our rights not because we’re being given bread and circuses, but because we’re too busy making a circus out of ourselves so we can buy bread.
Lol. The privacy bits are what always make me doubt people who say they use iOS for privacy reasons. They’ll scream that and then install every google service they can on the same phone.
I don’t think that’s good excuse. Firefox is free and installing it takes less than 10 minutes.
Most people don’t use an ad blocker and most people don’t even know this drama exists.
Which makes it weirder why take a grudge against us.
It’s a recession and suddenly the money lost to adblockers matters.
Users when company who makes billions in profit off of ads modifies their browser to forcefully show more ads: 🤯😟
For real, why even use a Google product if you don’t have to
To install Graphene OS onto a Pixel Phone.
Pihole goes brrrr
please help - https://lemmy.ml/c/pihole
Correction: The adblockalypse is coming for people still using chromium
It’s serverside with browser support. A webserver implements it on their site, so it could refuse to load without WEI regardless of chromium or not.
Within 6 months of implementation someone will find a way around it, or a FOSS alternative to spoof the WEI signing on servers.
I mean, it’s basically going to be as strong as TLS. Unless the digital signers cert gets leaked, I don’t see how.
Yea, because the other browsers certainly won’t follow if users complain because Youtube and co. dont work anymore…
I wouldn’t complain. Good riddance.
You really don’t realize how stupid that take is? If Google manages to establish this all major browsers will have follow and a single complain less won’t change that…
I simply will not use the internet until another browser is available? Use that little head.
Reported for being disproportionately hostile. There is no reason to attack someone over something as silly as web browsers.
That wasn’t a “attack”… 🤦
It was, actually. I guess you just attack people without even realizing it. Let me guess: You’re a redditor?
