Seriously i have zero idea what is going on with bluesky. I never used it. Why are people saying it’s centralised? I also heard that a lot of people are joining it.

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    2 months ago

    Nothing is wrong with it. Fediverse bros are just salty that it’s getting all the traffic instead of mastodon.

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      ….She said on Lemmy, a platform provided for free and free of ads by volunteers.

      Every day I’m more persuaded that in the main, Lemmy got the dregs of Reddit during the exodus, who are the nastiest most argumentative, most poorly informed shitheads the internet has to offer.

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      I mean, as long as Twitter goes down, who exactly gets to do the killing blow among all the individual blows doesn’t truly matter now, does it?

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        Depends on your perspective. Would it be fine for Meta Threads to replace it? Threads supports ActivityPub, so in some ways it likely interacts better with the fediverse.

        If we agree that Threads isn’t a suitable replacement, then clearly there’s some criteria a replacement should meet. A lot of the things that make Threads unpalatable are also true of Bluesky, particularly if your concern relates to the platform being under the control of a corporation.

        On the other hand, from the perspective of “Twitter 2.0 is now a toxic, alt-right cesspool where productive conversations can’t be had,” then both Threads and Bluesky are huge improvements.

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          If it needs a server to talk to others, that’s already bad. If it needs a server, but it can be my server, it’s palatable. That’s all the criteria you need.

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      Well, there are some things wrong with it though?

      It’s possible to criticize both Mastodon and Bluesky for their respective issues

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          B-Corp. But as long as they don’t show any kind of sustainable business model compared to their costs, ye the result doesn’t differ much

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    Centalised as in not federated. Which means we’ve basically set a timer until it starts acting like Google or Facebook, or even “X” if a crazy person buys it out.

    That being said, I welcome any kind of actual competition.

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      Let me see the first ten posts in my feed. (I haven’t opened today so let’s see…)

      God saying why is radical left an insult?

      Space view with a good picture of Pluto.

      God talking about centrists and leftists

      More space pictures

      Someone talking about a free game on stream

      Someone talking about how rpg fans love to insist pokemon isn’t rpg

      Horror video game protagonist coming across ammo, yeah that isn’t ominous.

      Some new video games called Anton

      We asked A.I. to generate a peak Seahawks game, these were the results.

      And

      A picture of the helix nebula.

      Yup lots of racism and traits.

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        Are you familiar with what liberal racism looks like?

        Anonymously browsing the feed I rapidly came upon these posts:

        Bluesky is known in left circles for censoring Palestinian accounts and allowing liberal Zionism.

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          You’re I guess looking at a feed of everything there is with no anchor to the correct side of politics? Try that with ActivityPub and just ingest the entire ecosystem with no home instance or blocklist and you’ll get lots of this.

          But I think you are right that the Bluesky PDS will not refuse to host you for saying things along the lines of “The US should continue to sell all kinds of weapons to Israel”, whereas a lot of Mastodon instances might be expected to kick you off for expressing this stubbornly common opinion.

          But I’m not sure it’s quite fair to expect a public service to share exactly the correct Overton window that one has oneself. That sort of enforcement on Bluesky is meant to be at the level of the custom moderation service/labeler, not at the data storage layer, since users more or less are meant to control that themselves.

          And if you pick a good labeler it will enforce that only the correct people are allowed in your view.

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            You’re I guess looking at a feed of everything there is with no anchor to the correct side of politics? Try that with ActivityPub and just ingest the entire ecosystem with no home instance or blocklist and you’ll get lots of this.

            I mean, it is trending/rising stuff that popped up organically. And it is all very much liberal. Run of the mill liberal racism we have all seen before, though it is often not recognized as such becauae it is not presented or reacted to as if it is.

            Combine this with the censorship of Palestinians and the people who run and fund the platform and you arrive at my conclusion. If Bluesky gets critical mass it will be even worse than Twitter was before Musk bought it.

            But I think you are right that the Bluesky PDS will not refuse to host you for saying things along the lines of “The US should continue to sell all kinds of weapons to Israel”, whereas a lot of Mastodon instances might be expected to kick you off for expressing this stubbornly common opinion.

            Well yes but my examples are a more naked form of racism beyond the ubiquitous support for imperialism - including their supported settler colonial projects - inherent to liberalism.

            But I’m not sure it’s quite fair to expect a public service to share exactly the correct Overton window that one has oneself.

            I don’t have an Overton Window. I have simply described the site as what it is.

            That sort of enforcement on Bluesky is meant to be at the level of the custom moderation service/labeler, not at the data storage layer, since users more or less are meant to control that themselves.

            I mean they ban accounts so regardless of what they say they are in the business of moderation and censorship.