• Contramuffin@lemmy.world
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    Also, she got second degree burns, and she was not the first person to be injured by the coffee, and McDonald’s was told multiple times that they served their coffee too hot.

    During the trial, McDonald’s showed zero care for the the people they injured, to the point that most of the fine that McDonald’s ended up paying was punitive damages

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      Third degree burns…. It was brutal. The pictures are out there for those that want to search.

      The coffee that burned Stella Liebeck was dangerously hot—hot enough to cause third-degree burns, even through clothes, in three seconds. Liebeck endured third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, including her inner thighs and genitals—the skin was burned away to the layers of muscle and fatty tissue. She had to be hospitalized for eight days, and she required skin grafts and other treatment. Her recovery lasted two years.

      Source

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        Tbh, I don’t get it. How can a coffee, that can be max 100°C cause such burns? I would have never believed hot/boiling water is that dangerous, without that story.

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          That’s literally a temperature you would cook meat with

          What do you think people are made of?

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            TIL, videos saying “cook meat at 180°” actually meant 180°F and not 180°C.

            Now I have to check what my induction stove means when it reads 180 in deep frying mode.

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              Afaik it means °C usually, but when boiling meat it will be cooked at 100°C give or take.

              But since well done steak is supposed to be 71°C, everything hotter than that would sooner or later cook the meat.

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                Considering that Google says 350°F - 375°F for deep frying and that I am in a °C country, I would lean more this way.

                Of course, I have never cooked meat and have no idea what deep frying meat at 180°C would do.

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                  4 months ago

                  Ah, I don’t know about deep frying, I was speaking about boiling, baking, and air frying, rather. Maybe my point is not valid in that case

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              Hot air/gas, hot water/liquid, and a hot solid behaved very differently. The numbers depend a lot on what’s being measured. There’s also a big variable of time.

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                The cheap induction stove is not really measuring anything.

                Its PWM has been tuned to get to the temperature the user selects, under whatever testing conditions they had while R&D. The displayed temperature is just the user selected temperature.

                But setting it to 120(whatever unit) manages to make good enough french fries, so that’s fine by me.

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          Boiling water is extremely dangerous! Water at 140°F (60°C) will cause a serious burn in 3 seconds. Even water at 120°F (49°C) will cause a serious burn within 10 minutes. Source

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          Well, scalding hot water, some of the hottest you are legally allowed to have set out of a water heater, is about 130 degrees F, or 54 degrees C. That will scald you in a few seconds.

          Her coffee was near double that. So, ice at 0, can burn you at 54, and then around 100 degrees… Yeah.

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          I mean, it’s easy to believe when you consider what might happen if you put your hand into a boiling pot of pasta, for example.