SpaceX’s Starship launches at the company’s Starbase facility near Boca Chica, Texas, have allegedly been contaminating local bodies of water with mercury for years. The news arrives in an exclusive CNBCreport on August 12, which cites internal documents and communications between local Texas regulators and the Environmental Protection Agency.

SpaceX’s fourth Starship test launch in June was its most successful so far—but the world’s largest and most powerful rocket ever built continues to wreak havoc on nearby Texas communities, wildlife, and ecosystems. But after repeated admonishments, reviews, and ignored requests, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) have had enough.

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    My god. What do you do for a living? Does it have no effect on the environment in any way shape or form?

    They literally just discovered that Starlink satellites are having that effect, and you have given them precisely zero time to even try and address and fix it. And in the meantime I literally just came back from a remote first Nations community that only has high quality internet because of it, amongst virtually every rural community in the world.

    Honestly, disconnect yourself from the internet before you spend any time looking into the environmental impact of your phone, the servers you use, and the billions of miles of fibre optic cables that connect everything. Because if that’s the kind of blood that prevents you from praising a company that is literally revolutionizing space launch, then literally nothing any of us ever do is worth praising because it’s all built on a giant foundation of blood.

    Hell, those solar thermal power plants that use mirrors to reflect light onto molten salts originally killed a whole bunch of birds. Are they bastards for trying to build out a new technology, realizing there’s environmental consequences, and then finding ways of addressing it?

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      My god. What do you do for a living?

      I don’t. But even if I did, working for a company is not the same as being the company. I don’t blame an Exxon oil rig worker for global warming.

      Does it have no effect on the environment in any way shape or form?

      Not to the extent SpaceX will since it’s destroying the ozone layer. Not sure why you seem to think that’s trivial.

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        I don’t. But even if I did, working for a company is not the same as being the company. I don’t blame an Exxon oil rig worker for global warming.

        You have literally said that nothing anyone does at SpaceX is worthy of praise and complained that people praise SpaceX’s genuine accomplishments.

        Not to the extent SpaceX will since it’s destroying the ozone layer. Not sure why you seem to think that’s trivial.

        But they’re not, they’re slightly slowing it’s rate of recovery. This is not a problem on the scale of CFCs that actually destroyed the ozone layer, both in terms of damage being done and potential scale it can grow to (4000 satellites vs millions and millions of refrigerators and freezers), and it’s one that we literally just discovered now and have literally only started trying to address now.

        Doing new things will have unexpected results and won’t be perfect the first try. News at 11. You wanna demonize the engineers who try and build new things for not having them 100% perfect the first time, then you’re free to be a Mennonite and separate yourself from all of t chbogy and modern society’s benefits too.

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          You have literally said that nothing anyone does at SpaceX is worthy of praise and complained that people praise SpaceX’s genuine accomplishments.

          Literally? Please quote me.

          But they’re not, they’re slightly slowing it’s rate of recovery.

          Please do show a study that rivals the University of Southern California which claims the exact opposite.

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              So I didn’t literally say what you claimed I literally said, or even close.

              If I had said, “maybe people will finally stop praising Starbucks,” would you tell me that I was literally saying that baristas are bad at their jobs?

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                K, so when people praise SpaceX’s engineers for designing unprecedented machines that do things that no one has ever seen before, that doesn’t bother you?

                You were referring specifically to all those times that people are praising SpaceX’s environmental regulation compliance?

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                  When people praise SpaceX, the company, it bothers me.

                  When people praise an engineer at SpaceX that does something cool, I am happy for the engineer.

                  Again- saying I hate Starbucks doesn’t mean I hate the baristas who work there. Saying I hate Exxon doesn’t mean I hate an oil rig worker who’s just trying to make money to feed their family.

                  And sticking just with Musk-owned companies, saying I hate Tesla doesn’t mean I hate some random Tesla employee I’ve never heard of.

                  I’m really not sure why I have to explain this to you.

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                    When people praise SpaceX, the company, it bothers me.

                    When people praise an engineer at SpaceX that does something cool, I am happy for the engineer.

                    I’m really not sure why I have to explain this to you.

                    You don’t have to explain either of those things to me, you can just answer the question I asked:

                    K, so when people praise SpaceX’s engineers for designing unprecedented machines that do things that no one has ever seen before, that doesn’t bother you?

                    i.e. when people praise SpaceX’s rockets and launches, does that bother you? Is that praising the company or praising the engineer in your mind?

                    At the end of the day what the company does is an output of the workers. When people praise what SpaceX does they are praising the workers, unless you view the company as just the CEO, in which case you’re falling into the folly of hero worship.