The statue commemorating Anne Frank, one of the most famous victims of the Holocaust, was defaced with pro-Palestinian graffiti for the second time on Sunday.

The statue is located in Merwedeplein, near the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam.

According to images published on X, the base of the statue was spray-painted with the slogan “Free Gaza” while the girl’s hands were painted with the same red color, AFP reported.

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    No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew, you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

    That’s hate speech, there’s laws for that. There isn’t for making valid comparisons.

    She may have nothing to do with Israel, but she has everything to do with genocide, the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

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      No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew

      I certainly never did anything of the sort. Which is what I mean about making up my position. You can’t debate what I said, so you have to make up something ridiculous to attack.

      But this still doesn’t answer my question. We are talking about someone defacing her memorial, and you said “Neither her not her father Otto are likely to take issue to drawing attention to genocide.”

      I can only interpret this one of two ways: either you think they would be okay with people defacing her memorial, or you think that I’m against drawing attention to genocide. I can assure you the latter is not true, but can you explain? Maybe I’m missing something.

      you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

      I very explicitly told them what they could do about the genocide part of it without exposing their antisemitism.

      the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

      Again, many other genocide memorials one could deface, including right in Amsterdam. You seem to be projecting: you think that I’m focusing solely on her being Jewish, while you are seemingly ignoring it from your point.

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        You are though, the fact you don’t see it is my point.

        They wouldn’t have an issue with someone spattering a statue with paint to draw attention to something she died from and he lived through. No, that seems like common sense and Otto talked quite a bit about his feelings about genocide. I’m not even sure how you screwed up plain English that badly unless you’re simply trying to twist what I said.

        They would be ok with someone defacing the memorial to draw attention to genocide, notice that haven’t made a statement something they would do of it bothered them. I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide, your motivations may be different but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

        How did they expose their anti semitism? As far as I’m aware all they did was paint pro Palestine stuff, there’s no indication as far as I’m aware that any of it was directly anti semitic only that people have taken it that way because she is Jewish.

        Are the others as famous? No? Are they Jews? No. You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

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          that seems like common sense

          You’re confusing what you want to be true with “common sense.” I’m not saying you are wrong, I don’t know the man so to me it’s “common sense” not to speak for him, but I find it terribly presumptuous to believe that they would be okay with this.

          I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide

          It’s a ridiculous logic jump from because I think their actions are antisemitic, that means I’m against drawing attention to the genocide. It’s the same exact ridiculously baseless logic that Netenyahu and so many Zionists are using to paint any protest of their actions as antisemitism. It’s shocking to see it used “in reverse.”

          but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

          It’s kind of hilarious for you to use this argument while arguing that it’s ridiculous to assume that defacing the a jewish memorial is antisemitic, when there is zero link for the former and a pretty glaring one for the latter.

          You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

          Again, putting words in my mouth. I’m just pointing out how defacing a memorial of a jewish person that has nothing to with Zionism reeks of antisemitism. Also, funny, how you telling me protesting their actions with my words is wrong and I’m against drawing attention the genocide, are basically telling me to “protest the right way.” What’s good for the goose, my friend.

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            Are you seriously arguing the family wouldn’t want genocide bright to light? Are you actually dumb are just choosing idiotic arguments. Maybe I do, the family isn’t hidden of you cared you’d reach out but you’d rather be enraged than involved in a meaningful way.

            Your comment just now doesn’t make it seem any less like your pro genocide dude, your honestly arguing that the family might be pro genocide.

            You’re only keeping nety by being so reductive you don’t see the reason why Anne frank is the perfect icon for this.

            Defacing a genocide memorial to bring light to genocide isn’t anti semitic, it’s apt and you’re blind. It’s what I mean when I say you reduce her to solely a Jew.

            No I’m using your statements against you, stop saying crazy shit and it won’t be as easy.

            I’m not telling you how to do anything, I’m calling out your bigoted bullshit.

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              Are you seriously arguing the family wouldn’t want genocide bright to light?

              I already explicitly and directly told you this is untrue, and yet you still misrepresent it. Why? What purpose does it serve you to continually misrepresent my position?

              your honestly arguing that the family might be pro genocide.

              You can’t tell the difference between saying they might be against a memorial to their daughter being vandalized and being pro-genocide? “Are you actually dumb are just choosing [sic] idiotic arguments. [sic]”

              It’s what I mean when I say you reduce her to solely a Jew.

              Incorrect. What I’m saying is that her Jewishness in inextricably tied to her and a memorial to her and the genocide of Jewish people. Again, you keep seeming to ignore it, but there are other genocide monuments right in Amsterdam that they could have defaced and still done the “defacing a genocide memorial to draw attention to a genocide.”

              I’m not telling you how to do anything,

              You’re literally accusing me of supporting genocide by my protest of their actions. It’s the same exact thing I’m doing with their antisemitic protest. The difference is that I can logically support my claim, while yours requires ignoring what I’ve explicitly told you is my position.

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                It’ll take however many times I have to tell you you’re being a bigot it seems.

                I’m saying they likely wouldn’t given you know the whole genocide thing being kind of a big issue for their family. You’re actively arguing against logic.

                Indeed. So you not see how her being a Jew could be related to a Jewish nation genociding people like a ostensibly Catholic nation genocided the Jews… It’s not irrelevant or anti semitic to say Israelis out of all nations should know what genocide looks like. Ok, what statue works better for you? Hitler, Himmler, are you suggesting they go vandalize the Holocaust museum. Seriously I’m interested, what person or place is more iconic in relation to Jews being genocided than the most famous genocided Jew?

                I am, I’m not however telling you to do anything. I’m hoping you see how bigoted it is to say she can be a icon of genocide but can’t be brought up because she’s Jewish. You’re the bigoted one, you just don’t see that your weird white knight attitude is keeping you from seeing the forest for the trees.

                Ed: to be clear I think you mean well you’re going so far away from trying to be bigoted you ended up bigoted.