You’re talking about using your personal connections within the community to slowly assemble a farm from small acquisitions like their deceased father’s garden and then leveraging those connections to find people to help you work the land. People that don’t need to give you their land and don’t need to work your land, they’re actually choosing to do it freely. That’d actually be amazing if it ever happened.
That basically has zero relation with how farms work under capitalism.
If there were still wages they would only be something extra as a reward, rather than something workers need to live.
Personal property, remember?
It’s not unimaginable for there to be no wages at all, though. No one has to pay me to clean my house, cook my food, or grow my own garden. No one had to pay me to help clean up the trailer park when we were hit by a huge storm that knocked down a bunch of trees. Truly voluntary work for no reward other than good feelings and social esteem shouldn’t be underestimated.
That’s… probably not something that would be realistic for people like us who grew up under wage slavery, though. We probably do need rewards to do truly difficult work because we’ve been traumatized by our material conditions to associate working hard with suffering.
The economy is a bit more complicated than fixing up a trailer park buddy… Also, the fact that there are people who only want to do the bare minimum, dont want to help their neighbours and such makes your fairytale utopia collapse. Yes, it sucks that people are greedy and lazy but thats simply what people are. You’ll never change that and that’s why communism always failed when it was attempted.
You’re talking about using your personal connections within the community to slowly assemble a farm from small acquisitions like their deceased father’s garden and then leveraging those connections to find people to help you work the land. People that don’t need to give you their land and don’t need to work your land, they’re actually choosing to do it freely. That’d actually be amazing if it ever happened.
That basically has zero relation with how farms work under capitalism.
Freely? No. For money. They can also work for money.
Except they don’t need money, so it’s still a free choice they’re making.
When you don’t need money to have a life worth living and all needs are already provided, any choice to work for money is a free one.
Who would provide for their needs? Volunteers?
You actually can’t imagine anyone doing any work without wage slavery, huh?
So instead of working for a wage you replace it with… working for no wage?
If there were still wages they would only be something extra as a reward, rather than something workers need to live.
Personal property, remember?
It’s not unimaginable for there to be no wages at all, though. No one has to pay me to clean my house, cook my food, or grow my own garden. No one had to pay me to help clean up the trailer park when we were hit by a huge storm that knocked down a bunch of trees. Truly voluntary work for no reward other than good feelings and social esteem shouldn’t be underestimated.
That’s… probably not something that would be realistic for people like us who grew up under wage slavery, though. We probably do need rewards to do truly difficult work because we’ve been traumatized by our material conditions to associate working hard with suffering.
The economy is a bit more complicated than fixing up a trailer park buddy… Also, the fact that there are people who only want to do the bare minimum, dont want to help their neighbours and such makes your fairytale utopia collapse. Yes, it sucks that people are greedy and lazy but thats simply what people are. You’ll never change that and that’s why communism always failed when it was attempted.
Misanthropy. Humans wouldn’t have gotten this far if we were all greedy selfish assholes. That’s the result of trauma of living under capitalism.
Communism never fails on its own. It is hunted down and destroyed by the US lol