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- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
I created a repo on GitHub that has a table comparing all the known lemmy instances
Why?
When I joined lemmy, I had to join a few different instances before I realized that:
- Some instances didn’t allow you to create new communities
- Some instances were setup with an
allowlistso that you couldn’t subscribe/participate with communities on (most) other instances - Some instances disabled important features like downvotes
- Some instances have profanity filters or don’t allow NSFW content
I couldn’t find an easy way to see how each instance was configured, so I used lemmy-stats-crawler and GitHub actions to discover all the Lemmy Instances, query their API, and dump the information into a data table for quick at-a-glance comparison.
I hope this helps others with a smooth migration to lemmy. Enjoy :)
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You’re awesome man! This is direly needed. I’m just wondering how on earth to publicize this before the madness that hits on Monday.
Any chance you could find a place to fit this in the join lemmy site and do a pull request before then? I know it’s a lot to ask, but it would be huge.
Yes this sounds great.
I see TypeScript and get scared. Personally, I do think that the join-lemmy.org/instances page should link to:
- My table comparison https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
- The Lemmy Community Browser (to find communities across all instances) https://browse.feddit.de/
- The Lemmy Map https://lemmymap.feddit.de/
- The federation’s lemmy page (with another table comparing instances) https://the-federation.info/platform/73
Can anyone with TypeScript experience make this PR for us? Here’s the relevant file:
You thinking just a <ul> with the 4 links in it and a header of some sort? Mock or description or anything?
I think at the top, just above the “Recommended” <h2> add:
For a more detailed comparison of Lemmy instances, see: <ul> <li><a href="https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances">Awesome-Lemmy-Instances on GitHub</a></li> <li><a href="https://the-federation.info/platform/73">the-federation.info Lemmy Instances Page</a></li> <li><a href="https://lemmymap.feddit.de/">Feddit's Lemmymap</a></li> </ul> After you create an account, you can find communites across all instances using <a href="https://browse.feddit.de/">Feddit's Lemmy Community Browser</a> <h2>Recommended</h2> ...
Not sure who the approved reviewers are.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-translations/pull/12 <-- translations PR, prerequisite of other PR
https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/pull/158 <-- DRAFT PR. This one will need the translations folder updated after the translations PR is done. There might be a better way to do this, but I almost never work on submodules in this way.
Not sure who the approved reviewers are
That’s @[email protected]
Translation merged. Actual HTML in full PR. Once/if @[email protected] approves, we’ll be… Nevermind, he just approved it. He said it’ll be live in an hour or two.
There wasn’t really anything that resembled typescript changes ultimately. The submoduled translations were the only real time sink there.
Awesome, thank you! 🚀
I see these changes, but I don’t understand how the i18n stuff works
Where’s the file/commit for the actual text stored for
instance_comparisonandinstance_browser?
abraxas said he was a typescript vet just earlier, maybe we can coax him into having a look? xD
Worth a shot at least.
EDIT: Just shot him a message
Unfortunately I also have very little free time. If you’re not in a hurry and nobody does it before me, I can take a look. Wish I could set a reminder in Lemme. Anyone code the remindme bot yet? LOL.
!remindme 1 week
EDIT: Well shit, yes the deadline for a lot of things is next monday isn’t it. Lemme see if I can squeeze in a little time tomorrow morning or evening, if one of my jobs isn’t overwhelmingly crazy, I might be able to. It’s just adding a few links in the “Lemmy Servers” body text? Any UI standard?
I’m a TS vet, but green on lemmy UI design.
deadline is next monday lol
Updated my original message. If I can make time, I need a little more precise info about what/where on the links. It looks like a short enough PR as long as I know exactly what the links should look like
I think it’s better with less choices for beginners actually. I remember a lot of people didn’t get started on mastadon because they were afraid to pick an instance.
It’s almost so it would be good if this could just be a checkbox “pick a good instance for me” and it would pick a medium populated instance from the list.
There is also a similar list on: https://the-federation.info/platform/73
oh shit I wish I knew that existed before XD
I’ve stumbled upon this site that seems to be similar?
Thanks for sharing! How did you find that one? Do you know who runs it? I really, really like that they have an uptime monitor.
I saw it somewhere on lemmy shortly after joining. I then left the tab open thinking it’d be useful but unfortunately lost the thread!
Is it autogenerated like this one?
Yes, it uses a standard called NodeInfo2 that many Fediverse projects and XMPP / Matrix etc. expose.
@poVoq Information in both list is completly different. For instance, in the list in github almost all instances accept new users, what is not the case in the-federation.
This is just a difference in how “sign upd only with admin approval” is handled.
Was about to post the same hehe That website is pretty great, specially like the charts!
Great work! Thanks for making this. ❤
Users can create communities on Blahaj Lemmy. Most of our communities are created by users
Hmm, I see
community_creation_admin_onlyis set tofalseon the API. I’ll look into this, thanks for letting me know :)Edit: should be fixed now. Please let me know if you find any other issues :)
Same for lemmy.studio, I have community creation open for everyone. Not sure why it shows as false.
What’s the API endpoint? I’ll double toggle the option to see if it fixes it, maybe it is set to admin only even if the UI shows the opposite.
Because I had a bug. Fixing now :)
I wonder how the user account is calculated too. I think Dartboard Links (links.dartboard.social) has about 10 users now.
I’m literally just asking the instance’s API how many users it has:
Check the
users_active_monthfield. How your instance calculates that is a question for the lemmy devs ;DI’m a pretty fresh instance (Saturday I think) so it might only be calculated once a week? idk
It only counts users who posted or commented during that time.
Ah, cool! 🙂
I also recently just created my instance vlemmy.net, I dont mind anyone joining and creating their community’s there. Dont really have any restrictions either. Would be nice to learn some new things from our internet friends
hexbear.net isn’t on your list
New users can register accounts without an application
Users cannot create communities
It is not federated and as such fully siloed
There are slur filters and NSFW content is not allowed
Downvotes are disabled
About 300 active users every day
About 300 active users every day
Underselling it? 431 currently logged in at time of this comment and it hits 600 concurrently logged in at peak time basically every day. The statistic this repo uses is also:
**Users ** The number of users that have been active on this instance this month
By that metric I think Hexbear is still the largest lemmy instance. It would be the third on this list if you only count daily concurrent login peak.
Based on data from August 2022 api survey of active users, with active being a user that has commented or posted that hour. with the qualification it will be lower than the user count displayed on the page which are users logged in.
I see, so it’s commenting accounts per hour. Would be interesting to see what the commenting accounts per month is to more accurately compare to this list. Although this list doesn’t make it clear whether they are using accounts that have commented or accounts that have simply participated via logging in and voting, I would personally include any voting account as “active”.
Yeah that makes sense, we will be able to get more up to date information after the relaunch
Only wish we knew what the definition of “active” being used was more clearly.
the lemmy source code is public
I mean in this git. “Active” is at the entire discretion of the person that made this list and is not quite fully defined.
Instances aren’t added manually. They’re discovered using lemmy-stats-crawler.
As long as your instance is federating, active, and the API is reachable then it will make it onto the list.
Edit: It looks like your instance’s API isn’t reachable, which may be why it’s missing:
Please fix the availability of your instance’s API.
hexbear is currently running an old version of lemmy that doesn’t support the v3 API or federation. migration to a more modern lemmy is in progress
@maltfield So apparently I can interact with my Lemmy posts on my Mastodon account. Cool!
For anyone else trying to figure out how: I just took the URL of the Lemmy post (https://lemmy.ml/post/1168743) and pasted it into the Mastodon search field.
How do you check wether nsfw content is allowed?
Because my instance (feddit.de) doesn‘t allow pornographic material. I guess that doesn‘t exclude all nsfw content. But the column header is called adult and it makes it seem like „adult content“ aka porn was allowed.
*edit fixed typo
It doesn’t say porn, it says adult. The legend describes how it’s determined
Adult “Yes” means there’s no profanity filters or blocking of NSFW content. “No” means that there are profanity filters or NSFW content is not allowed.
@maltfield
It’s cool seeing this post in Mastodon.how do you do that? Is there a guide anywhere for how to setup mastodon seeing lemmy or lemmy seeing mastodon?
@maltfield
You can follow users or communities from Mastodon.The magic of ActivityPub.
Just search for the user or community’s url in mastodon, You can then follow from the result.
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It would be nice for those elsewhere on the fediverse to know when an instance is aligned with or run by the same people as an existing mastodon or other kind of instance.
Pretty sure nothing conventional is exposed for that sort of information, but it could be useful in the future. Maybe a general description field that can contain that sort of information.
You mean like https://mastodon.world and https://lemmy.world? Do you have other examples?
I think there are a few.
blahaj.zone
infosec.pub
pawbs is a furries thing on mastodon too I think
I wrote a small mastodon post with some links here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/110506940921141037
It would probably be useful, but harder to collect, a summary of:
- Primary/intended topics or users (eg, tech, politics, regional, etc)
- Any unusual moderation patterns
- Most/least blocked
How about a spreadsheet release (on GitHub) so we can easily filter things out? 👀
Shiit, it would be much easier for me to write it out to a CSV than to a damn markdown table. Thanks for the great suggestion :)
Edit: @[email protected] the table is now available as a spreadsheet
Shooting for this. It’s not beautiful but it’s not ugly:
Gonna have to dance around the i8n library for this PR, but it shoudl be possible.
Definitely better than what we have! More info is better
Great work! Can you include the instance description in this list also?
Also i would love to see country but that’s doesn’t seem to be included in the Lemmy app. I guess you could do a ip lookup on some service to see country if you really wanted to.
I think the description would be too long and clutter the table. I’d be down for descriptions on-hover, but I’d have to switch platforms (from GitHub markdown) for that afaik.
You can also get the country from this list. I don’t know how they do it (maybe IP lookup)
