• mpiepgrass@lemmy.world
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      I am disappointed in the direction RH has moved in, but what makes it evil? I am certain that a good portion of their work will make its way into open source projects. So it seems to me that it is a good thing that we all hope would be better. And I thought you had to opt into the Fedora telemetry. Is that not the case? If they are using it for design improvements it’s all to the good. If Fedora is selling the information and they force or trick users into it, then yes, Fedora will deserve its inevitable demise.

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        I am certain that a good portion of their work will make its way into open source projects.

        100% should make its way, that’s open source. Now projects need to be scared when looking at Red Hat code because they might get sued for it.

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          RedHat is not going closed source. All the code is still open source. Nobody is getting sued for looking at it.

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              I’ve seen them. I understand them. I’m correct.

              Not making their sources generally available for download is NOT the same as closed source. The only ones subject to their new licensing agreements are their paying customers. They are very much pushing against the spirit of FOSS licenses but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.

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                  You think you are talking to a very different person than you actually are.

                  Not making their package sources generally available for download is NOT the same as closed source. The only ones subject to their new licensing agreements are their paying customers. They are very much pushing against the spirit of FOSS licenses but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.

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                    but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.

                    But how would that Joe look at the source code if it not publicly available and he’s not a paying customer?

                    Checkmate.

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        Yah I don’t get it. I don’t think people realize how much of the stuff they run is developed by Red Hat. I think people still think its coders in their free time contributing but alot of the kernel and other big projects are done by people who are paid.

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      RedHat doesn’t control Fedora. The community poll is against opt-out telemetry atm. It’s leaning towards opt-in atm. The original proposal only has 16% support. If the Fedora council ignores the result then you can say Red Hat controls the distro. But, Fedora has diverged from Red Hat before (BTRFS)