the proposal is from a red-hat team member and is proposing addition of “privacy-respecting” telemetry. here’s the link to the hyperkitty thread

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    Usage data is important for developers to know how people use their software, so I’m okay with it. But given Red Hat’s recent direction, I’m not sure I trust them to slowly increase the data being collected.

    But I don’t use Fedora and I’ve already moved off Red Hat/CentOS, so I don’t have a horse in this race ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      Usage data is a crutch, effective developers can make good software with zero telemetry and did so for several decades.

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        Telemetry is important for desktop developers, you can negate it but it’s a fact. Most users do not know what is GitLab

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          I guess it’s more accurate to say that people know what GitLab is but don’t know/aren’t willing to troubleshoot and submit quality feedback.

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            At work, many Linux user, they may know gitlab but not GNOME one.

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          Is that really a fact? (No.) Wow, it’s crazy how every desktop program that doesn’t use telemetry isn’t any good, according to you.

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            They didn’t say any software that doesn’t have telemetry isn’t any good.

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              His exact words:

              Telemetry is important for desktop developers, you can negate it but it’s a fact

              I’m going to assume you know what the subject and object of that sentence are. Here’s the thing about how language works on my planet: through the magic of a radical new concept called “context”, we can accurately discern both meaning and normative statements from what people say and how they phrase it. In other words, “It’s a fact that telemetry is important for desktop developers” is an ostensibly descriptive statement that also creates a normative statement in the same way that standing in the sun casts a shadow: it has to, it isn’t optional. It’s “Desktop developers who don’t use telemetry are ignoring something that it’s factual to say is important they not ignore”. Please tell me you get it now, and that you don’t need the rest spoonfed to you.